Unique Gear Thread for DK's.

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  1. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    For those of you wanting a simpler equation, here you go...

    TotalSpeed=(BaseWeaponSpeed*(1+%SpeedFromWeapon))*(1+%SpeedFromGems+%SpeedFromEquipment+%SpeedFromKnowledge-%10BehemothSpeedPeanltyIfUsed)

    So, working backwards, if your goal is 2.00 speed and you are looking at using a bow with 30% attack speed:

    2.00=(0.833̅3̅ *(1+0.3))*(1+%SpeedNotOnWeapon)
    2.00=1.083̅3̅ *(1+%SpeedNotOnWeapon)
    2.00/1.083̅3̅ =1+%SpeedNotOnWeapon
    1.8̅4̅6̅1̅5̅3̅ =1+%SpeedNotOnWeapon
    0.8̅4̅6̅1̅5̅3̅=%SpeedNotOnWeapon

    If you are planning to use the Behemoth talent, you will need
    0.9461538̅4̅6̅1̅5̅3̅ speed from your gems, gear, set bonuses, and knowledge points.

    You know what... those numbers are rediculous.
    How about we just call it 84.6% or 94.6% speed?

    For all that rangers complain about not having a "true 2H weapon," it is worth noting that no other class could have such a "easy" time hitting 2.00 speed with their slow/high damage weapon. 2H Guns, Staffs, Hammers, Axes, and even Swords don't have speed lines, making it next to impossible to reach those speeds. Add in that you are able to use a quiver with that speed and moderate damage (compared to gun/staff/hammer), and I'd say that RAs are right on par with the other 2H classes, despite all the griping to the contrary.
     
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  2. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    That is why I said there is no need for crossbows ... because most of the rangers are using shortbow and never used longbow in the arena.
    I am using longbows since ever ... and I know their potential. Not to speak now ... with these knowledge skills and 20% less conc. spending.
     
  3. ekant1992

    ekant1992 Padavan

    Where does the pet bonus go? .. in equipment or is it a multiplier to overall speed.
     
  4. Wllf

    Wllf Advanced

    Oh. I have infernally bad luck and have never dropped a ring from PW bosses. The best I've done is crafted a Tier 2 shoulder. Where do you get the craftable enchantment? I thought it was just 4 rings. I guess I should just stop commenting here because I clearly have no idea what I am talking about. XD
     
  5. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    In equipment. It behaves just like an HP/Damage/Armor/Resistance pet or the % increase from Essence and influences the final stat based on the root stat, not the total stat. It is also worth noting that buffs (either from items or from skill talents) are also counted in the enchantment category too.
     
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  6. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    From Salvendar in Cardhun, right next to the blacksmith where you melt for glyphs. Second tab (miscellanous) includes the transformation fragment for 35000 materi frags.

    Its not widely known/used because the PW rings are a pain to get, and are not as desirable as a good legendary or the dragonache/dragonsilver gnob rings.
     
  7. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    In equipment.
    I am on the run ATM ... I will give you my opinion later or tomorrow.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2016
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  8. AlexCC

    AlexCC Someday Author

    Hi all, this is my ranger. It's still only lvl 20 in Wisdom (divided in 10% for speed and 10% for damage).

    I'm using 4 pieces of the LorTac set (helmet, shoulders,gloves and boots) to get the 10% damage bonus for the set, and to get advantage of the 10% increased speed in boots and gloves (i also have 2 more pieces of the lortac set in the locker: the armor and the quiver). My current armor gives me another 9,76% damage bonus.

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    Do you guys have any advice in how i should evolve my ranger from here (regarding gear, strategy, etc)?

    Also should i be using / investing in any of this other weapons instead?

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    Thanks in advance!

    edited: sorry, forgot to post stats, it's already fixed
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2016
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Astral Peridot and Jewel of Willpower are not an option for me. Longbow's 20% cost reduction is just enough ...
    If you are using those then you are losing power as well ... because instead of them you can use other gems.
    ATM I have 3 gem slots in my cloak (I am waiting for the new cloak so i won't open 2 more until I see what cloak will be offered) and 5 in my helm. I have 6 Jewels of Rage (using 5) ... 2 Jewels of Immunity ... 1 Crystal Solstice Star ... 1 Solstice Star (not using ATM) and 1 Concetrated Solstice Crystal (not using ATM). So basically I would choose combination of those.

    ATM the arena is broken ... you can have even 4.00 attack speed yet skilled SW will always own you. That is because you don't have a defense against their basic skill. DKs and midgets have some kind of immunity to stuns (which is not enough) ... but rangers don't have any. Therefore 4 seconds immunity to suns should be brought back for all classes ... that was one of the skills that we played arena for ... in the past. And after R155 it was simply stolen from us. Not that this skill is the only reason why the arena is broken but it is related to your question.
    You don't have to ask what bow i will choose :p ... that answer is known in advance ... otherwise why would I spending my time improving my Longbow character.
    But in the end the outcome is pretty much the same whether you are using longbow or shortbow ...
    Using just math and formulas is so damn wrong ... because playing is not only a math. That is just a theory ... but the reality is different.
     
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  10. xmasholo

    xmasholo Forum Apprentice

    My long bow to pve, hehe

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  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    That is very nice bow.
    You have 2 almost perfect lines of weapon damage ... that I can't get in four years. :mad:

    Ah ... you are aiming for the arena build ... I am not.
    But If they fix the arena ... in future ... I might make painless transformation. Of course if I get decent shield ... all i get so far is pathetic under average shields.
     
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  12. wangwang

    wangwang Active Author

    Those 55s have blinded me XD
     
  13. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I know... 8 items at 55 where two of those are a weapon and shield... That is a lot of time spend grinding.
     
  14. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    You have some serious dedication that is for sure. I envy your time and your character.
     
  15. -DeathsRevenge-

    -DeathsRevenge- Advanced

    True enough, but is sure easier than back in the days with knights to farm glyphs now. If your some free rich-man / or just having a lot of time. You can probably do 5mil+ a day doing Q3 all the time. :) - Tested it some time ago & farmed over 300k glyphs per hour.
     
  16. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    That would be 16+ hours a day everyday doing q3 over and over. I find that as appealing as watching a superfluid trying to become a solid.
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2016
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  17. joe6699

    joe6699 Junior Expert

    WoW, this is the bow i was looking for a while...with that i can beat almost everyone in PVP!
     
  18. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Let me guess... it drives you so crazy that you could just crawl the walls. ;)
     
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  19. CMGKraZ

    CMGKraZ Forum Greenhorn

    who wants there to be the ability to weild 2 swords (a.k.a duel weilding)
     
  20. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    The upcoming new class could have something like that. Doubt they'd add the option to DKs, though.