Unique Gear Thread for DK's.

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  1. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Except for one thing ... I am giving decent importance to defensive stats as well. I do things solo ... I don't wait for someone else to finish my job. That means I need higher HP resistance and armor ... I would never ditch my Armor of Darkness for full % damage torso.
    Also you don't worry about GoPs because you are enjoying the benefits of premium Deluxe. Even If I can get it ... I don't like it. I tend to play the old school way :p
    As for the rings ... oh yes I have them (full crit damage) I have almost everything ... I am just like Sport Billy ... I only need to reach my bag and I can get out anything out of it. :D
    My concept lies in making 2x%HP and 2x crit damage amulet and full crit damage belt.
    Those i am still using are not even decent ones ... they are level 45 pre-R155. I am not in hurry making new ones (I have all the ingredients) because I am taking my time ... and I am cheap and don't want to spend my andermants on any item (gem slots). If I do it it will be on perfect item :p
    I won't ditch my arrows either. Those are level 8 Grimmagstone arrows ...giving me 100 damage in just 2 lines at level 55.

    The other night I was soloing The Herald of the Underworld ... with blue essences. I took him down in 8 minutes. With less attack speed you can't even fire a shot at him without being hit.
     
  2. Ioedavide

    Ioedavide Forum Apprentice

    Didn't I? With the couple of missing slot i'll have 300hp less than u and 2% armor, seems little irrelevant (my amethyst are half flawless half sacred, good but not the best). Also 10% resistence in PvE (the kind i play) doesn't seem that game breaker... I play mostly solo too, and sad story, nobody is willing to finish my job cause ranger "live in the ghetto", but since the only worth of farming map is Q3M1 minibosses fatal, I have all the def I need there (I can increase hp with wisdom removing one onix for a shappire, but is not needed)...

    As for soloing Herold, honestly I couldn't care less to set myself for not being hitted by him; the only boss I do solo is Grimmag and he has potato AI so no risk at all.

    Deluxe or not i can take all the key items to 55.

    Really, from talking about ranger we are drifting to who got more of this or those, and that's not in my interest.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2016
  3. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Exactly my point.
    Just because you have no interest in making rational decisions doesn't mean the other players are doing the same thing.
    Quite contrary majority of the players are making rational decisions when building their character.

    I must ask you one question (it is not related to the conversation or to you personally) ...
    How long you are playing the game?
     
  4. Ioedavide

    Ioedavide Forum Apprentice

    Non rational decision? All my decisions are well motivated in previous posts: am I losing 150/200 crit hit (form a truly perfect quiver, cause i find mostly yellow stats not reaching 460 crit hit, so the gain will be a whooping 50 crit hit compared to 6 yellow lines of crit hit from items, and I'm not even planning to have those enchantements) because I'm not using a full crit hit quiver? I know, but still, that crit is not fitting in my build, cause 80% is the max, and I'm already there.

    Seems pretty rational to not look for a full crit hit quiver if I can get to 80% with only 2 items (GrimmagFW and Bloodthooth), darkness set and a 0 crit hit quiver at 55.

    Seems unrational to me to play with damge enchantements on left items, probably even if they are coming from Lv8 items (unless u have a 3 crit hit 1 extra enchantement piece, that leveled up gives like a full crit hit lv50 and have the fourth bonus in surplus, but that's obvious... In the end, speaking in terms of offensive stats, the only low levels items I envy are the ones with 3 crit hit or full crit, there you have massive gain, the others are not that big deal. A full damage lv 8 even giving 220 dmg is not that different from a 60% crit dmg piece, in terms of damage output. In any case, I don't have those pieces, so problem solved...)

    In the end I have extensively explained how my ideal build should be and why; be kind and explain your cause I haven't got it yet. I only understand that u like atk speed and damage, and full crit hit quiver...
    Look at my items, keep in mind that my goal is a full crit dmg belt and a full crit dmg quiver to play with GFW, and just tell me what u will change, what u will do with a full crit hit quiver; so that we can cut the discussion to an end.

    I've only seen you coming here on high horses, pointing the finger at me with expression like "disagree with above claims" in a short post where u didn't motivate one single point (like I'm here claimings, when I've posted a bunch of screens proving facts), "waiting others to finish my job", "not interested in rational decision" (I have more gop than i can use on the items,should I spare them to decrease my stats and leaving them in the pocket?Is that rational?)...

    Ps: as all the explanation about the quiver and why I'm not going for a full crit hit weren't enough, here's another (not important, but still to consider): there is plenty of situations when I'm in Pvp with shield that require a switch to quiver, also there a full crit hit quiver will be junk, launching me to 10k crit hit and without crit dmg gain. Should I make two quivers, change stones every time between them an GOP too for PvP, is that your idea of versatility?

    I'm playing since August 2014.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2016
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  5. Aemon

    Aemon Advanced

    not it's definitely not. don't try to sell your personal playstyle preference as a universally valid fact. good rangers play with 1.6 speed in pvp (when using a longbow). it's the perfect breakpoint in terms of agility and def/other stats tradeoff. as i understood from your previous posts, you hardly play pvp, dont you?

    for pve, you most certainly dont need more than 1.42 speed. there are even rangers (some of the strongest in server heredur) that play with 0.8 speed and rely on blade dance, thorn thicket, ea damage. (for farming maps, they switch to 1+ speed for boss runs). they can clean a whole q3 run fatal solo in 9-11 minutes, heredur included.
    there are many good and efficient playstyles you prolly havent ever thought about and yet surly are worth being considered. from my point of view, your "attack speed playstyle" that you're trying to sell as a must-have is not optimized. not bad at all, but not the best in terms of efficiency and effectiveness.
    as leodavide has already pointed out, as a ranger the best way to compensate our lack of 2h damage is to push crit and crit damage as high as possible, even more since it's a global multiplier.


    not my ranger, so I censored his name. Im sure he will read this and comment it if he wishes to reveal himself and explain you the high effectiveness of this build and how it is being played:
    [​IMG]
     
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  6. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I must speak out Armando 's name once again ... and his false claims.

    Dude ... it was not my intention to compare my vs your build ... I was only using screens from my build so you can notice some facts like:
    1. you already have crafted all your gear and upgraded to level 55 ... you have very small room for improvement. Opposite to you I have my build with old pre-R155 crappy items and have very large room for improvements. That means with my method I will always achieve higher DPI than you.
    2. When balancing between attack speed, damage and critical damage ... higher (within calculated limits) attack speed and damage are more important for rangers (even for 1h SWs) than max or very high critical damage. Just make one calculation you will get that by yourself. Decrease the crit damage and increase the attack speed to 1.77/8 ... you will get higher DPI than you have ATM.
    3. Attack speed is more important for rangers than the other classes (unless they are 1h) ... because they can play with 2H weapons ... rangers only have 1h.
    4. If this troll above (I will greet him later in my post) my post is agreeing with you and you follow his play style ... that doesn't mean that is the right choice. The fact is there are many possibilities ...even your and my philosophy can lead to same outcome if built right. Everything depends on the skills you are using.
    5.
    Read the quote ... it was referring to GoPs only.

    That been said ... you don't need to turn hostile ... I never did it at first place :D
    Best regards from Trakilaki.

    Hello Mr. Troll.
    I find your arguments and playing style very similar to one Ultra player from Heredur server. Perhaps you are him?
    I am asking the mods to check your account ... and see if any relations there.
    Maybe you censored the name because it is your toon and you are hiding behind another forum account.
    Yes I am playing PVP only for Gilded Clovers from DQs. Does that mean I can't see how broken PVP is ATM? Does that mean I must play only PVP so I can notice the differences? Of course not ... even if I am playing for DQ ... I can notice the irregularities at once. More bugs and exploits than EVER. Everyone one shot everyone ... one shot damage bigger than player's HP. Of course in this broken world only the high damage matters. But I am speaking in terms of well balanced and almost flawless arena ... like it used to be.
    That is true ... to some point. It is true that one would have to spend a lot more essences with that build ... but essences doesn't matter ... you can always farm them.
     
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  7. Ioedavide

    Ioedavide Forum Apprentice

    @trakilaki: there is no hostility, fact is that I know what i lose using a piece instead of another, i play since two years but still I'm well aware of the game mechanical: is a cost I'm willing to pay for reasons I've already explained (mainly to use the same w.adornement in both pve and pvp, since I set myself on daily bases to play and spare hundreds of gold is a big deal to me).

    We are back to the first main point: i dont care to have more speed, even if is boosting my dpi, cause dpi is a useful instrument, but is just a mere indicator. To me speed is the most sacrificable stat (in pve), and my tests are fulfilling my expectation, so I'm staying on this route...

    The only improvement (other than reorganise the crit dmg enchantements to use GFW) I feel needed is bigger gems, but of course is going to be a long road, or an expensive one.

    In the end let's just agree to disagree (friendly like a copule of opponent school of thought philosopher), cause we are not and we will not move from this impasse, and conversation is pointless cause none of us is will move from his (valid) ideas.

    Ps: didn't get the Armando part...
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2016
  8. x_Dragon_Slayer_x

    x_Dragon_Slayer_x Someday Author

    How is my ranger?
    I know, i need a lot of work to do with my noob ranger xD (i'm free and i don't have much time to play...)
    I can't get a better long bow or torso with % dmg :oops:
    I can solo lvl 2 but lvl 3 is too much for me xD
    I'm farming and doing the events solo because i can't get a group...
    Please give me some tips about how to improve my little ranger xd
    [​IMG]
    PD1: The cloak is lvl 2...
    PD2: Sorry for my english... :oops:
     
  9. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Well, try getting into a nice guild.
    That will boost your chances of getting into a group, so you will be able to run Fatals and events for better chances at overall improvement.
     
  10. Aemon

    Aemon Advanced

    My other forum account is currently banned, not much about hiding here. I even mention my name in previous posts, its not a secret that this is my 2nd forum acc, an action i had to take I sometimes take the risk of getting banned with my real (ultra)forum acc :D

    To address your claims, rest assured this is not my toon. I havent farmed for 2 months, this means my toon is far away from having items and stats like this one above. One could say i helped him a little bit when he had decision to make. But this is mainly the result of his work and game mechanic knowledge. He hasnt posted here for quite a while, and i wont mention his name without his agreement. Btw, there is also still alot of room for improvement in this toon :)

    I'll address your other points later this evening when im done with work.
     
  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Don't worry it is nothing related to you ... he knows exactly what I am talking about :D
    You are doing fine ... be patient and keep farming and crafting everything will come with time.
    :D

    --MERGED--

    Can someone bump this thread so i can post again? :D
     
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  12. Melethainiel

    Melethainiel Team Leader Team Drakensang Online

    There you go. Bumped to the top.
    Ps. I would expect from "All knowing Oracle" to use "edit" button. :p


    Good luck!:)
     
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  13. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Thanks!
    The problem is I want to make new post since that previous one is old :p

    OK ... my newest build
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    With green essences of course.
     
  14. kris252832

    kris252832 Forum Greenhorn

    love the fact that you have two rings of death, i have the feeling not many people use them nowerdays. Seeing that gives me a bit of a nostalgic feeling of the lvl 45 days
     
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  15. RichMan

    RichMan Active Author

    Ok so this first picture is how i left my ranger hanging before i decided to change my class to a DK.
    [​IMG]
    Now after 3 months i started playing my ranger again i did some "improvements" on dps. My luck with gold lines on longbows is so bad that i only got 2 of them in this 3 months of playing :/
    I hope i am doing a good job because as noobs as everybody thinks rangers are i actually enjoy him the most out of the 4 classes.
    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Well, he has one T2 and one T3 (plus more, I guess, as he's onto making that first one T3 as well). That's a lotta rings/Mortis runs xD.
     
  17. EhtovK

    EhtovK Old Hand

    Not necessarily, you just need to speed run to the Death Knight boss in the Ocean of Bones, he might have sucky drop rates compared to Mortis, but you can do quite a lot of runs once you get the hang of it, thus, improving your overall chances of getting RoD drops, also, I think pretty much everyone can run it solo, as opposed to Mortis.
     
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  18. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Anyone who has their eyes set on a T3 RoD should be able to at least solo Mortis I and maybe II, but you are right that that one knight is easier and faster for most. Personally, I still think that the RoD is over rated and crafted crit damage rings would be way more beneficial for a RA.
     
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  19. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    But in any case, that'd still mean A LOT of runs xD.
     
  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I rarely kill Mortis ... I am killing the mini bosses in q6 m1+m2.
    When I farm for RoD ... I am usually doing ~1000 runs per day :D

    Anyway ... small update on my stats.
    Upgraded my gear using that free Deluxe premium. After taking all the GoPs from my gear ... it turned out i have something like 300M.

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