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  1. babaroga

    babaroga Someday Author

    Me and my friend did alot of runs in Ghastly Grave (AKA map150, m150, 150 map, sargon) and only uniques together we found is heredur's shield, weapon adornment and weapon

    And then we did a run this morning where he just stood aside while i was killing all mobs, sargon and heredur too... so he just didnt do any damage to any monster in map, he picked up the keys, opened the chest and he got sargons powerfull book of shadows ( i got heredur's shield as usually)

    Please do something about this!
     
  2. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Don't group up with your "friend".

    In the last dragan event, somebody ask me to group up and join them for battleground as they needed a DK to take damage. They indicated incorrectly that they hadnt started the battle, which meant i was unlikely to get credit and victory tokens. So I left instead of doing the dirty work.

    If you find yourself in this situation again, do something about it.
     
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  3. SailorSaturn

    SailorSaturn Padavan

    Well, did said friend went AFK for a valid reason? If he didn't have a valid explanation, tell him to purchase you some andermant or a monthly account to break things even. Otherwise, consider him as a leecher and give him the boot.

    Lucky him!
     
  4. Zokin

    Zokin Forum Expert

    He's not talking about how he's screwed up by his friend, he's talking about crappy drop. xD
     
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  5. babaroga

    babaroga Someday Author


    I told him to go afk because i wanted to see if he will have better drop if he dont fight at all!....

    I did a group with random players also and always i deal lot of dmg and they just die and wait for me to revive them and still they get a better drop then me ....


    EDIT:
    But I didnt yet try with group of 5 members ( i did once with group of 3 and 4 members but most of time i go solo or in 2)

    Should i try with 5?
    should i try to kill sargon and heredur with only green arrow (once again)?
     
  6. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    If one person spends twenty dollars on tickets, and another person only spends one dollar, either person can still win a lottery jackpot.

    Drop quality isn't related to how much you fight. You just have to be in the dungeon. The rest is luck.
     
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  7. babaroga

    babaroga Someday Author

    I wouldnt say that!
    You dont know the source code so you dont know anything so how can you tell that it is related to luck?
    Just like the lasers when soloing map ( they are invisible to some players but they are visible to p(l)ayers)
     
  8. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Doing dragan with groups of 5 is tough. If you do it, you should get some spirit stones for reviving whoever is tanking dragan, or try to go with 2 tanks.

    The biggest group Ive killed regular dragan with for my DK is 2 (2 DK group). With my dwarf which is much weaker than the DK, I was successful in a group of 3 - the mechanical turret is pretty effective in hitting dragan, and my dwarf has the talent where the mechanical turret hits decrease the cooldowns by 1 second per hit.

    Ive only killed dragan hard with the dk, solo with red ess
     
  9. babaroga

    babaroga Someday Author


    I dont need Dragan.... unless ofcourse if he can drop Sargon Powerful Shadow Quiver?
     
  10. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Afaik, dragan only drops dragan gear and does not drop sargon gear

    For sargon in ghastly grave, a dwarf plus tank plus damage dealer is nice. Turrets work really well againt sargon too.

    I recommend targetting sargon first and then taking out heredur.
     
  11. babaroga

    babaroga Someday Author

    I can beat sargon and heredur in ghastly grave without items (or with only blacksmith items) lol ... that part is easy but the other part like begging the chest to drop you something other than "old royal quiver", "Sargon powerful shadow bow" and "sargon powerful shadow arrows" isnt really simple :D

    im currently doing what you recommend me (going for 5th time with that tactics) :D
     
  12. Trailboss1

    Trailboss1 Forum Mogul

    What a great idea. Make a thread about the drop rate with the big bosses.

    Join the freakin club and search the forums. There's a ton of these already. Not trying to sound harsh or anything, but rise of Dragan 2 thread is probably the best spot for this kinda complaining ;)
     
  13. TheGreatDivine

    TheGreatDivine Forum Apprentice

    The drop rate isn't going to be changed on this event. Your best bet is go for Dragan. If you do not need, then continue with your Sargon runs leading to disappointment. Maybe you'll get something eventually, but continuing to do it and complaining about the crap stuff you get is a waste of your time. Not sure if christmas cape helps torward the chest....but if have, can try it out I guess.
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2014
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  14. babaroga

    babaroga Someday Author

    Ohhh im very thankful for the suggestion .... i didnt even know that rise of dragan thread exists XD
     
  15. SailorSaturn

    SailorSaturn Padavan

    I know that, but the way he complains about the drop rates and asking to do something about it... if his friend gets the extra drops even if he doesn't do anything, OP should be just be thankful *SOMEONE* is getting something nice out of it period. I went with my partner-in-crime and killed Sargon/Heredur and it seems that he gets better drops if he just plain solos. The three times I did it with him, I got Sargon's Book of Shadows but other times I would always get one green item, one blue item, and a ton of coins. Drops are even worse if we try to include a third person into our group, we would get one green, a bunch of coins and a white item.

    Only reason why my pal wanted to group with me is because he knows there's no way in hell I can solo Sargon/Heredur without dying a whole bunch of times, and he really wants to help me out unconditionally. It sucks because other than timing my guardian to aggro and the odd AOE spell, I'm pretty much useless and dodging like hell so their crazy hits don't take my HP down too quickly. I guess we should try it out (he solos and self-resses and I hide in the safe zone) so that at least he doesn't have to spend so many spirit stones on me.
     
  16. babaroga

    babaroga Someday Author

    My friends afk was my plan!
    How dont you get that ? I told him to go afk because i wanted to know if he would get better drop while not fighting at all! And then I got convinced that the drop from chest is bugged when he told me what he got!
     
  17. Silentmist

    Silentmist Junior Expert

    Sure, that must be the only explanation.
    You told him to go afk and he dropped, that means that you have to tell your friend to go afk or he can go afk on his own? Cause maybe the game knows..maybe the game reads the chat and modifies his drop if we write something wrong...
     
  18. Trailboss1

    Trailboss1 Forum Mogul

    Wow. I don't think I would even be that sarcastic:D

    But yeah, it doesn't make a difference if someone fights or not. Does matter the amount of damage done. Doesn't matter the class...name of toon...favorite color...favorite food......it's all lucky randomness. I refer to this post in the SAME thread.


    After that post, the thread should be closed :rolleyes:
     
  19. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    I caught a cold once after I ate a burger with onion. I usually never eat onion, so onions must cause colds!

    Exactly right. Superstitious mumbo-jumbo based on ONE DROP experience doesn't show a pattern.

    Kill Sargon with your friend going afk 100 times, then compare his average drop versus yours. You would then have some evidence. The evidence almost certainly wouldn't support your hypothesis, but at least you would have done a proper experiment.

    This will be my last post on this goofy idea. Drop rates in this event are bad, on average, for everyone. End of story.
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2014
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  20. babaroga

    babaroga Someday Author

    or maybe i told him on fb :p

    --Merged--

    How to close thread ?
     
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