Suggestion Premium Account balancing.

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  1. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    Hey guies,

    How about since the removal of CoTs and premium accounts got free ID of improve to extraordinary items the they get free workbench for improved and Magic ingredients. We still have to pay for legendary. Remove mystic cubes and keep the big surprise chest to make up for the one level lost. (3 levels of IDs vrs 2 levels of synthesis via workbench)
     
  2. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I don't think the mysterious cubes will be eliminated as there's a whole new set attached to them
     
  3. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    I think your right but maybe limited where they drop?
     
  4. bahhumbug

    bahhumbug Forum Apprentice

    Amazing. Just amazing. Premiums now get FREE honor and with the Mystic Cubes being a PERMANENT part of the game now, Premiums get a chance to get a completely op set that F2P have no chance of getting...EVER.
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  5. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Not to be sarcastic or anything, but there is an old saying I keep in mind when dealing with stuff that appears to be given out for free: "if you can't figure out the product, you are the product". In this case, F2P isn't paying anything to game development, so F2P is part of the product for P2P.
     
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  6. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Yes how rude of BP to offer something that might entice players to pay for their game.
    OK
     
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  7. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Unfortunately, none of the players, F2P or P2P get to decide how much is "fair" or enough. BP does based on subscribers. If they don't get enough people to pay for the game I'm sure more benefits would be offered to change that.

    I do find it interesting that you critique someone else's post about what they suggest for premium asking how much "Free" they want for $13, which is a conflict of definitions. And then counter when you continually want equality for $0. Don't react as a victim of heavy handedness, when in truth you are a beneficiary of it's patrons. Enjoy the ride for free or come to the dark side and join the mysterious cube club.
     
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  8. Play nice, kiddies. The forum is a place for discussing ideas. Not for bagging other posters.
     
  9. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Indeed, and thank you for the reminder.:)
     
  10. Duriastriker

    Duriastriker Forum Inhabitant

    Cubes aren't that big of a deal, yes there is a cool set from it, but you'll most likely get starlight before any of those uniques.
     
  11. spiro_spula

    spiro_spula Forum Connoisseur

    So I opened 106 cubes today, have been hoarding them since the premium compensation thingie. This was the loot:

    Gems
    tier 2 --> 7
    tier 3 --> 17
    tier 4 --> 2
    Gear
    pink -----> 72
    legendary -> 7
     
  12. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan

    For all the attention it's getting, I think Premium users got the bad end of R139. Mysterious Cubes will drop squat. At the same time the rate of their drops are geared at a rate such that the premium users cant complain. Its like adding another Keen/Roshan/Yachak/Spark set. You know it's there, you keep hoping that it falls, but its pure dumb luck.
     
  13. spiro_spula

    spiro_spula Forum Connoisseur

    You must take into account my super crappy luck, some people opened only a few and got polished offensive gems and uniques. Also, the sample of 106 is not really representative.
     
  14. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    I've opened 100 cubes: 4 legendaries, 76 XD items, and the rest splintered, simple, and 1 full gem.

    What is the rate on those uniques, that were promised? I'm guessing about 1 in 500,000, or so.
    Or is it more a "value added" approach, where those with already massive investments of time and money, they are the ones who collect the real goodies.

    LOL on us again.
     
  15. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Wanna talk about crappy luck... I just happened to log into ten accounts that I rarely play during the period that got them all premium. Of course now I have to play them along with my main accounts every day (I'm am still in the denial phase of my addiction to this game :rolleyes:)

    Anyway, re: the topic, the only real issue I have with the new premium is those single lockpicks from the royal chests. Sure, I prefer paying for known rather than a random (the cubes.) Most of the cubes I have got have been "whatever" but two of my toons on my main accounts that were bogged down got some legends that got them moving again. I'll have to wait and see if this was a fluke or a trend (i.e. a real long term benefit from the cubes.)

    This is where I take comfort. Game designers can dream up new things, programmers can write code but it's the finance/marketing folks who make the final decision on what happens in the game. Even maintaining the same margins is not good enough for them (more to the point, their bosses.) They need to see growth.

    Overall I am still undecided whether I will keep the premium on my mains. If I do decide to end them at least the the reason on my cancellation survey will be simple... "R139"

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
  16. nasowas

    nasowas Junior Expert

    With the apparent low drop rate of ALL uniques in game, there is still a chance the premiums can get op gear and it's a bad thing? Months and months looking for Roshans and nothing but the cubes are supposed to drop the unique set more than the rest? Okay sure.
    At least you're getting better gems than what usually drops and tons of E gear. Premiums will still be able to craft and ID more legendary pieces then any non subscriber. But that's a bad thing?
    So rough to be a premium subscriber...woe..oh woe...
     
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