BP's quest on making PvP fair.

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  1. Duriastriker

    Duriastriker Forum Inhabitant

    Not going to give a long story, but would like others responses on this. I am tired of coming across people in 1v1 who pot. Some even buff up when fight starts. I find it unfair. Now some will say "Ok why don't you pot?", because that defeats the purpose of PvP. It's a function for 2 or more players to duel against each other, giving yourself add-ons isn't YOUR complete char if that makes sense. Anyways, point for this is make pots and buffs unavailble in pvp. Simple, easy, will balance pvp by a long shot.
     
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  2. Duriastriker

    Duriastriker Forum Inhabitant

    Well apparently it wasn't put into consideration since potting is still allowed :|
     
  3. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan

    Here is a thought.
    Why should pvp be fair?
    Some people are paying money to get those buffs, pots etc and essentially keeping BP being able to run Drakensang, while some others mooch off freely from BP and keep asking for evenness in pvp and stuff.
    The thing is simple, they pay that's why BP lets them do such stuff. get over it. PVP will never be fair, sweetheart. Now accept it and move along.
     
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  4. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    I absolutely love when someone declares what is fair..... when they really mean this is what I don't like.

    Is it fair for someone who reached lvl 20 in a day to fight someone who spent the last year twinking to stay at lvl 20 ?

    Is it fair for a newer player to fight an older player who had access to better gear that is no longer available ?

    Is it fair for those lower on the fame tree to fight those higher ?

    There is no such thing as "fair" and never will be.

    Everyone in the game, has the ability to purchase ess, potions, or buffs, but everyone has not had the same opportunities to get gear or level up that gear, so it would seem that limiting gear would make it easier to balance.

    To get closest to being "fair" the same class of character at the same level would have to walk in naked with no weapons and just how much fun would that be ?
     
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  5. markomiljanov

    markomiljanov Someday Author

    Why limit gear when u or me can boost it as much as we like, that is the same for everyone. Just pump up ur toon and you will have decent chance disredarding p2p oponent or not.
     
  6. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    But the statement was "fair". How long does it take to bump up your toon ? What about those who completed events and got better gear ?

    But to claim what is completely available to everyone is unfair is simply not true. There are many factors in this game including the random stats and length of time in game that create the advantage.

    There is nothing that will make everyone completely happy, and there will always be some who claim it is unfair... Everyone has things that they don't like, but just because you don't like them doesn't make them unfair.
     
  7. Duriastriker

    Duriastriker Forum Inhabitant

    Exactly, so pvp shouldnt be based off level and rank alone, stats of both parties should play into factor.



    Also, the idea of keeping a low lvl char to be as OP as possible i find ridiculous.
     
  8. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    Buffs are just another tool in a pvp match. The game has built-in armor and damage buffs in 5v5, and 6v6 has healing stations for both sides. It would be ludicrous to assume there is some macho rule that players can't bring in and use their own buffs and healing potions. Next they will want to fight bare naked without weapons, like the "good old days."

    All the hoopla against buffs is just sour grapes, a cover-up by players who are proud of poverty, can't keyboard them effectively, or for some reason won't work for them in the maps and vendors. Give it a rest, please.
     
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  9. Duriastriker

    Duriastriker Forum Inhabitant

    I have pots for days, as well as buffs. But I would assume pvp is a function for players to test thereselves against another, seeing who has the better char in a sense, potting/buffs cancels that idea out.
     
  10. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan

    Naaaaaah. Not really. It's more about having a sense of accomplishment over another by pretending that being better at a make believe world makes you better in real world too. I am not judging, just sayin'.
    Look dude, it's a game. No one gives a fudgesickle about being "fair" in real life, why should they start being "fair" in games? They come at you with what they have got, es simple as that. Come'on, chin up and get on with your life, sweetheart. Stop asking for "fairness". The idea is both abstract and doesn't exist;anywhere.
     
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  11. Duriastriker

    Duriastriker Forum Inhabitant

    Last I knew, you don't know me, for I do have a life, but no, I don't have to explain myself to you. As for your idea of life, which is ignorant may I might add, this game for the simple fact to escape from the real world. I do so in the attempt to have fun unlike I do in real life, so that being said, this topic should go into considersation over the fact stuff in unbalanced. Unbalanced, unfair and for the most part, just an excuse for people like you who pot. xD
     
  12. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan


    Aaaand there we have it. I never pot if that's what you think. I am a pure f2p and I play with scraps lol. That aside, You know "this" is an escape from real world, yet you keep complaining to make it even more enticing than your real world. Isn't it like some kid complaining that his weed isn't potent enough? In that case, pay more to get better weed, or in this case, a better "gaming experience".
     
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  13. Duriastriker

    Duriastriker Forum Inhabitant

    That's the point of a online MMO, where have you been?
     
  14. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    This thread cracks me up :D Why? Well, I've red the same thread many dozens of times over the past few years. Players use all sorts of things in PvP to have the advantage. You just cannot see them like when a player pops a pot :eek:

    So the whole fair/unfair thing really doesn't matter. It's part of the game that is unlikely to change anytime soon. Heck, pots and the best buffs in the game are nothing compared to upper gem tiers or uber upped gear. I don't see these going away either ;)

    Oh, about the difference between the game and the real world... there is only one. IRL you get dead in a battle, game over, permanently :(

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
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  15. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan

    And you need a lot of strength to swing a sword, doesn't really come with fingers that play MMO 24*7

    And that's what I am saying. If you want better, pay up. Don't complain about fairness. You gave up the right to fairness when you chose to get involved in a make believe world swinging make believe swords. You just re-inforced my point, it's the sense of accomplishment that matters, so using pots and buffs are pretty fair as long as it bolsters the online inflated ego.xd
     
  16. markomiljanov

    markomiljanov Someday Author

    The rules and possibilities were introduce to everyone when he/she started playing. For those who are p2p and those f2p, donno why make such a fuss. Why expect to be fully equal with guy why pays for the game? Boost gear and enjoy;)
     
  17. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    Ok here is what I am seeing this thread is about.

    BP should do what other games do.

    A free for all pvp. Like it is now...

    Add limit PVP where you choose what limits you want que up and see IF anyone wants to fight with those limits.

    My thoughts on potting is that you will come to a point where you think using is will make you win then you see me using one right after you as to say haha I have one also...

    Another thought is you have to time pots correctly that takes some skill. Pots have a pvp timer so I am guessing they intended for you to use them. I personal try to win without but if the other person really wants to win I'll let him. Again this is just a game. I'll even goto the area and say kill me. I hope it will make things nicer for the others.
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2014
  18. Teller-Ulam

    Teller-Ulam Forum Greenhorn

    On a slightly different note, why are Steam Mechanicus' considered so awful for both PVE and PVP?
     
  19. Trailboss1

    Trailboss1 Forum Mogul

    Durrendal, I just wanna know why you calling him "sweetheart" o_O lol
     
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  20. Wyrwiflaka

    Wyrwiflaka Exceptional Talent

    And I'm tired ppl who go on pvp and later wrote on forum about it that they want block on it ess and pot.
    Ok, no pot and buffs but only when YOU take off gems, glifes, and any gear with healing and healing skills, deal? (sarcasm)