Dwarf Heist 2.0, mini event question

So far I could only find that the 2nd challenge takes 3405 of event progress to finish.

How many lowering contraptions do we need to get this 3405?

A rough estimation would be fine since I missed the first event. Thank you!

 

Ok since I am lazy man for nature, who wants to get always the best result avaible using the minimal resources... always doing numbers to figure it out until when I'll need to farm and then stop, I did some math today

so the question I resolve was "how many burners do i need before start the 2nd challenge, and while doing it not worry about if I farmed enough to complete if every run I'll kill all bosses from normal and challenge map"

so here is my math NOTE: all the data comes from the last event,



**1360 burners to start the challenge***

let me explain it,

you start with 1360 burners which are 13 passes to the challenge map
you have 60 burners left...***
during those 13 runs you will farm
13*37 burners = 481
so now we have 481+60 = 541 (5 passes) 41 burners left****
again 5*37 = 185
185+41= 226 = 2 passes and 26 burners left***
2 passes = 74 burners
74+26 = 100 = 1 pass***

*** 13+5+2+1 =21 passes!!!


I hope you find this useful

 

@Zamvel7 your math is wrong

The second challenge is not like the first one ... in fact there is no answer how much burners someone needs to complete the second challenge because it is very much drop dependent (luck?).
This is the second challenge



3405 is the goal.

My math says there are minimum and maximum requirements ... and all between is possible ... and the range is really wide.
According to my math it needs minimum of 6 runs and maximum of 27 runs.

The towers are dropping x2 to x50 ... not every tower is dropping viscanium drops.
The Iron Creeper is always dropping from x100 to x250 viscanium drops.

In the best possible scenario you would collect 500-600 drops per run
In the worst possible scenario you would collect 120-130 drops per run.

The most likely outcome would be between 11 and 16 runs. (1100 - 1600 burners)

 

well if we would to be sure all the maths should be thinking we lack on luck and we have to do 27 runs with 120-130...=U

but that number would tell us the max burners we need before doing the challenge 2.

anyway @wizzo90 you have two possible answers

 

Thank you, Zamvel and Trakilaki, that helps me a lot!

 

I forgot to mention ... i was playing the second challenge on the TS ... twice (not two runs but i have completed the second challenge two times since the event has been reset).
Those numbers i gave you were the actual drops and runs that took me to complete the challenge on the TS.

 

Trend forcasting can be an exacting science, just like probability or statistical analysis.
I like trakilaki's projections most, because they are less theoretical, coming from real-time experience.
There is the problem of predictability: past performance does not guarantee future results. Things change, especially the details of BP's test server and the final product. Even worse, BigPoint is currently deep in the tinkering business.

This event has been running smoothly, and many have said it is rather enjoyable, easy, not too boring. I hope Challenge #2 keeps it up.
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Challenge #2 is more of a nightmare #2.
It was bad enough that DSO reduced players' offense and defense, and their usable drops, while increasing monster offense and defense. Now they provide an obscured map with complex minion positions and a terrible time line. It is worse, when teams weaken, as the OP finish or move on.
It has gone past the point where BigPoint just poisons and curses everything they touch. It would be better to simply restore some old programs intact, and let the players have some satisfaction.

 

I average 25 burners per map 17 garenteeded and another 20 max as 5 5 and 10. I still think you get 20 in the mini challah so that makes me figure I need 55 burners per run stored up. If you figure the max times needed you will need to save up 1505 burners and only use 1485 with 20 left over at the end if you kill the two bosses on your 27th run. Honestly I will admit that no one in their right mind will have that bad of a luck but hey who knows maybe your Internet goes out 4 runs in a row.

 

So, 1400 were required for me. Anyone else had differnt numbers?

 

I started at 1350. I'm down to about 900 and am more than half way through so far. I've had a couple of lucky runs, both with getting good burner drops in the first map and a couple of good viscanium runs in the second map, so my results may not be typical. I'm projecting ending the mini event tonight with about 200 burners to spare.

 

Re: Burners required..My initial farming for the Burners, resulted in 1450 at begining of challenge events s and completed both challenges with 216 burners left. Bare in mind I was doing the mini M1 run including the 3 bosses on occasions as I had not completed M1 event..

 

I needed 1400 burners to complete the 2nd mini challenge with a low of 149 drops and a high of 376 drops.

 

In the end, I ended with 600. I kept running for picks to turn into keys farmed about 15 keys before the event ended. I also banked over 1k burners and a full stack of 99 picks for next time.

 

I did the event with 1050 burners and stopped after getting my 3405 needed. I still have an hour left for what I thought I would need and I tossed out 100 burners. I had 1150 when I started the 2nd round.

 

I have finished the second challenge with 11 or 12 runs ... which was within my expectations:

 

I did 3 runs of the mini map and got the progress of only 245. I get only 1 or 2 hours to play so i stopped doing it bcoz the drops of burners are just 17 and very rarely the drops are of 31. So leaving the events now onwards they are not for players like me specially the challenges which required 5 hours per day of farming.