Remove Inventory-Sort Button

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Do you want the Sort Button to be removed from DSO?

  1. Yes, please remove it.

    95.8%
  2. No, keep it in the game.

    4.2%
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  1. ωιzzy

    ωιzzy Forum Greenhorn

    Hello all :)

    After I clicked for the 6th time the inventory sort button (by accident), I decided to post a poll to look how many players agree with me that this feature must be removed from the game.

    For newbies this feature might be good, if you don't have mutch inventory space it's usefull to have your items sorted. But for alot of players who got all inventory expansions, and most of them filled with costumes/emotes and items, it is really, really annyoing.
    It took my like 30 minutes to get all my items back in the old place, and I don't even have that mutch items so for alot of players it's even worse.
    Besides that, it doesn't even put the items of the same type together.

    Please devs, remove this.

    Thanks for reading.
    //Wizzy
     
  2. Oddzy

    Oddzy Forum Greenhorn

    It is definitely in a wrong place. If they eecide not to remove it then move it to a safer location and/or add a feature where it asks you whether you want to sort your stuff or not.
    I used the cloak of undefeatables right next to it so I had to get used to another position if I didn't wanted to hit that by accident. :D
     
  3. ωιzzy

    ωιzzy Forum Greenhorn

    Yes exactly or make a button to get your items back like you had before, or a verification pop-up if you click the button.
     
  4. Pumpkin7

    Pumpkin7 Junior Expert

    I haven't misclicked it yet, but it's very tricky. Thumb up from me to its removal.
     
  5. Stendarr

    Stendarr Forum Apprentice

    Big yeeees, many of time i almost clicked on that pikachubutton ... and for my unluck 5x it was "succesed" ... 10mins of cleaning that hell.. it even doesnt have any system ..
     
  6. Fugnuts

    Fugnuts Forum Master

    If you dont plan to remove it at least pick another place for it.Or you can do something like this.For instance if you click on it, the items from your inventory will be sorted, but after you press it again then the sorting will be undone and your inventory will be arranged just as it were before the sorting.
     
  7. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    An inventory sort button has the potential to be very useful, but just like 99% of things BP implements, it demonstrates how clueless the developers are when it comes to their own game. Here are the three things that need to be done to implement the sort button right:

    1. Add a confirmation box where it asks if you are sure. There can be a check box to not show this in the future, and then future issues are the user's fault if they check the box.
    2. Add a revert feature where if you click the sort button by accident, you can revert it back to the previous configuration, so long as you have not changed maps or manually manipulated your inventory.
    3. There should be the option to only apply the sort to the open page, or selected pages, or some mechanic to exclude specific items or pages from the sort function. Personally, I'd love to apply the sort function to 1.5 pages and no more... the rest of my inventory is very carefully arranged how I want it.
    Implement those changes, and I'd be using the sort button after every farming run, but as is, I dread the moment I accidentally click it because I know that I'll spend the next 15-20 min fixing the mess it left.

    Side Rant:
    What BigPoint really needs to do is hire someone to play the game 8 hours a day, 4 days a week, and then the fifth is dedicated to passing all features by this player/tester to see if they make sense to someone who actually plays the game. This player/tester should not have unlimited gold, andermant, glyphs, honor points, draken, etc (premium and 50k-75k ander a month might be OK to help, but no unlimited)... make him just like us. This is different than QA/QC looking for bugs... this is someone who can get into the head of an average player and tell the bosses when they are being stupid.
     
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  8. BlackHat

    BlackHat Junior Expert

    In the italian forum asked to create an option in the settings to enable/disable this button.
    Maybe it can be usefull for many people but for me, and for many others, no so I can't spend 30 minutes to organize my inventory if accidentally I push it.
     
  9. chiuseer

    chiuseer Advanced

    Yes,please remove it. Because I have my way to organize my inventory and locker. If I clicked sort button by accident. I have to sort out again.:(
     
  10. ωιzzy

    ωιzzy Forum Greenhorn

    What I already said, these 3 points would already solve the problem, so if you devs are not removing this feature, please improve it with these points then :)
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2016
  11. KillsKings

    KillsKings Forum Greenhorn

    i bet all of what say to remove it dont have more than 3 tabs .. , remove is not the solution!they need to change it like baragain say, i use this function and i dont want to be removed...
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2016
  12. Dragonnns

    Dragonnns Count Count

    Unfortunately, when I hit it, it put all the costumes and emotes on the first tab in no particular order. I don't know that it will always sort things in the same order each time. Or maybe it sorts things different based on some random piece of information like level or character type.
     
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  13. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    But I don't do it that way which is why I'd appreciate it if BP didn't assume to know how I want to sort the majority of my inventory.
     
  14. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    You need a lesson in statistics. If 37 people participate in a poll, then they are considered the representative population and then are used to extrapolate the total number... in that case, if this population of 37 is used to forecast a million, then 946k out of every million will likely want it removed or fixed. Even if you think that the English forum crowd is not a representative enough population, statistics still say that it is unlikely that it is off by about 46% from the player norm considering that the English community is the second largest in the game..

    Call me selfish, but I just don't like the idea of someone having a feature that gets tweaked until it benefits a small population because their habits happen to line up with your's or the developer's habits. Instead, I believe that that developers should do their job and make something that is useful to as many people as possible. Diversity is a good thing.

    And go back to post #7. I love the idea of sorting, but the way of implementing it you describe is only good for a small population that happens to line up with how you operate. My way allows people a finer degree of control to a wide range of people without a highly complicated mechanic.



    Bottom line; as is, the feature is worse than useless. An accidental click can easily waste 10-20 min and no serious end game player with more than one page of inventory unlocked uses it. Their design of the mechanic was moronic and they compleatly missed putting in just a couple of little features that would keep it from being a total pain in the rear... just like they failed to put a confirmation window on the crafting bench before closing, or when they introduced the CV system that is actively misleading to new players. This is standard BP development and programming. Give it about 4-6 months and they will make an entire release about it and make it seem like a big deal that they are giving the players what they want when the truth is that they demonstrate their incompetence by not putting it in there to begin with. Stop trying to defend their piss poor programming in any way. If they can't fix it/make it usable in a timely manner, the least they could do is add a toggle button to turn it off while their get their heads out of their rear ends.
     
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  15. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I still stand by my original position:

    Kill the inventory sort button. Kill it until it is dead, then kill it again.​
     
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  16. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Or "If you aren't going to do it right, don't do it at all."
     
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  17. LooneyTed

    LooneyTed Someday Author

    Hello, all...

    I've seen all opinions on this rotten sort function. I have accidentally clicked it more than once (argh!) and wasted too much time resorting my inventory. I would rather have been playing the game than doing (censored) unsorting the "sort". I can see that players with one or two pages of inventory may enjoy this feature, but for me it's a time waster.

    BP should, at the very least, provide a toggle to enable the sort or not.

    I hate to admit it, but Microsloth did do something right... the pop-up "Are you sure?" worked for the gang in the MS mothership. BP might take a cue from Gates and his crew.

    Just my two cents worth (reduced for inflation).

    Regards,

    ... LooneyTed

    I was just thinking this over a bit and for the life of me I cannot imagine why BP won't do this. The logic diagram would add a single decision diamond: If yes do this; if no do nothing. Two lines of code and a single new label, a field for the button and the code to load it. Five whole minutes of coding with almost five minutes of testing with a radio button on the inventory screen. Do this and everyone is happy. Hell, I'll code it for them gratis.... (Hint) - Perhaps release 171? Hmmm?

    Thanks for listening.

    ... LooneyTed


    Be kind.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2016
  18. Woudlopertje

    Woudlopertje Someday Author

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    Well i'm so happy right now everything is exactly where it should be thanks bp, by just wasting 1 hour of my time fixing my inventory to how it was. Cuz i can really find my items in no-time right now :)
     
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  19. Sunlight

    Sunlight User

    Hey there,

    We have, then, a good information for you: sort-button will now working per inventory page and can be turned on/off (according to test server) :p
    Wait for Release 171 ;)

    Cheers,
     
  20. GodChronos

    GodChronos Forum Expert

    It also is now in another location so it is almost impossible to press it by acicdent.
     
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