Suggestion Hunting Arrow | Fortified String

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  1. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    This is a skill change/improvement suggestion:

    Fortified String:
    "The Hunting Arrow penetrates all marked targets and the first unmarked target it hits."

    This would thus mark two additional targets with each arrow into a crowd until all in the path are marked.

    Also, with it only being 60% of base damage, the word "deadly" should be removed from the description of the Hunting Arrow. (thus: The hunting bow is the Ranger's weapon of choise.) The "Anniversary" Arena made me understand this labeling. I was using "Death sweep", "Scatter Shot", and "Deadly Blow" far more than I was using Hunting Arrow and Precise shot (which are way to slow once the crowd shows up).
     
  2. thuglifederp

    thuglifederp Active Author

    If you are trying to suggest a buff for rangers from my P.O.V i think the dmg a ranger is dealing is decent.
    the problem is that he cant maintain that dmg like the other classes bcz he is unable to regenerate his concentration like a mage for example with his mana yea a ranger can use his adrenaline skill to recover full concentration but that skill has a CD while the mage can combo blink and combo again and redo this again bcz of his black hole skill ( dont know the skill's name i only read what their doing ;p) now i donT know much about the mechanic class but when that class drops 2 automatic turrets things got real.

    So a buff on ranger's concentration regen would be nice maybe something like regen of concentration based on the crit hits of hunting arrows like the mechanic set .
    I might not be the right person to give a sugestion on a buff for a class but this is what I realised so far problem with the concentration regen other then that everything else seems ok for me , yeak ok it sucks the fact that you need to mark your targets to deal more dmg but every class has his disadvantage.
     
  3. Perfect[IoN]1

    Perfect[IoN]1 Junior Expert

    this is true, they do need more regen and i dont think it should be talent based,
    if every time you hit marked enemy with haunted arrow it should regen 3 concentration same for dwarf and mage and DK but ranger does not have effective attack patterns nor this effect..
    if there was a skill knowledge based to fix this problem would maintain balance
     
  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    What you are asking is to powerful and would make rangers unbalanced OP class.
    Try using Hunting Traps instead of Death Sweep ... hunting traps are doing miracles. ;)
     
  5. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    Ummm.. no it wouldn't. It wouldn't even come close to making the Ranger as powerful as the DragonKnight. My DragonKnight can hit 6-10 creatures for 100% damage each on every swing. The Ranger gets a 60% damage to MAX of 2 (close or far). When you got 20 creatures in a closed arena surrounding you, 2 at a time without the armor of the DragonKnight just doesn't cut it.

    Hunting Traps???? Are you kidding??? No wait. Hey here is my trap, I set it over there. Don't come after me, go to my trap. Wait why are you comming at me. No, go to the trap. Aren't you listening??? Go to it! I only get one a minute, and it only lasts for seconds. Wait, you monsters in this arena need to wait till I can get another trap that you ignored last time.
    *rolls eyes*
     
  6. joe6699

    joe6699 Junior Expert

    The best combination for me in a crowded area is definitely :
    1- death sweep (slow them down and poison dmg for 3 sec)
    2- ticket of thorn (slow the mobs add also dmg per sec)
    3- explosive arrows (DMG them and add armor break) the death sweep poison dmg is enhance because the armor break
    4- explosive arrows again ( DMG them and add armor break)
    5- deadly blow ( to kill them, enemy stuck in tickets of thorn will explode you will also get your concentration back)

    (you must kill the lowest hp monsters with deadly to get your concentration back and healing if that skill is selected

    In order to do that, you must have a tank setup, i suggest dragan set for concentration and block bonus.
    You can aslo watch a video that i did for stonekeep lvl3 solo farming in the media library.
     
  7. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    That is one effective way. The other is to set traps, let them walk into it, throw net on the other half that didn't get marked, Thicket, spam Precision Shot. I like to leave enough concentration to Blade Dance through the mob after my initial barrage to cut down my cool downs in order to do the process again. With the New New Moon set, I do more DPS with Precision Shot than Explosive Arrow, unless I am farming Painful PW.
     
  8. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Ah ... I see ... you are new around here XD
    You don't have to send invitation to the mobs ... they are going after you anyway. You don't use traps for one monster but for dozens at same time. That is the beauty ... they are going in your direction and all you have to do is set a trap and move step forward ;)
    That is for weak players.
    The strong players ... like me ... are gathering as much monsters at same place as possible and jump into the "fire". ;)
    Believe me it is very fast way ... i have done all the time achievements in PWs ... without help of tanks. We split in the map and everyone is doing his own task. I am doing it very fast ... with blue essences only ;)
    And of course i am not using shield I am using quiver.
    That is the second way ... the third way requires traps, EA and DB ... and of course faster attack speed.
    In this case you enter the crowd release the traps and spam EA and DB ... DB is helping to replenish your concentration and spam even more EA. If a some of the monsters are at greater distance kill them with PS.
     
  9. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    trakilaki,
    Ah I see. You started at level 50 with everything the game had to offer to begin with. I understand.

    I, on the other hand, did the anniversary event at level 28-29. My base damage was only like 160 - 200 (wish I had writen down or taken screen shots).

    Everyone else,
    I don't have thicket of thorns yet and I don't have explosive arrow yet. Those look to be really cool, and the thorns is why I couldn't make it past round 3. The arse that showed up was firing them faster than I could dive out of the way and/or get rid of the crowd. I rarely got a shot off towards him, if I even got one, or a hole to get at him.

    Now in Fortress Teganswall, I tried to utilize the hunting trap. Really did. 7 out of 10 were a complete waste. This is a skill that I find to be nearly completely useless.

    In Tegan's Sanctuary, I finally found a decent longbow and shifted from my shortbow. The longbow DPS was about 180% of the short bow. I thought I would lose my shield going to one, which has lots of needed defence. (All the other classes lose thier shield when going to the large weapon.) However, I found out that was not the case. I'm actually doing ok in the Dragon Cavern against the mobs. Wish I had known this before the anniversary event. My Death sweep and Scatter shot are much more effective, not to mention I get more of them with the reduced concentration costs that the longbow is giving.

    I'm now at level 31 with a base damage of 331 - 439, with about the same armor % and a good 4% more critical rate. Still, a little more penetration with the hunting arrow would be nice, but I'm no longer WISHING for it. A little higher in the amount of damage would be ok as well, just seems that 60% of base is a little out of balance on the low side.

    I used my DK for the Full Moon event (before I got this longbow) and there was no way my Ranger could have even come close to doing what the DK did while the Ranger had the shortbow. Not so sure even now, though it at least wouldn't be a slaughter of the Ranger.
     
  10. bloodyneo

    bloodyneo Forum Master

    all rangers need is developers start treating him like any other character AT LEAST give him normal gears... for example u can find green long bow lvl 50 with just 25 damage stat its just pathetic
     
  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Man you should have said you are low level and you are limited with the skills. :)
    However ... it is still very powerful and out of balance ... because you should not only think about your level but for the cap level.
     
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