2H Weapon Showcase (Dwarf Edition)

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  1. Arx_X

    Arx_X Advanced

    trakilaki did a nice comparison and it turns out 4x weapon dmg is better.. so a nice 2h with +300% weap dmg is my goal now
     
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  2. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Well actually no ... i only said 4x weapon damage is better choice based on my feeling ... but _Baragain_ made mathematical comparison :p
     
  3. Saved_81

    Saved_81 Forum Master

    As long as you will have % dmg on belt, torso, 25 wisdom in % dmg and blu ess, the best is 4 x IDotR.
    If you also consider the Q7 bonus and aventually a % dmg helm the % IDotR gets even better.
     
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  4. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    4x weapon damage seems to be the best in my opinion. Based on the following:

    Increased damage on a weapon (with that, I mean general damage (%), not weapon dmg) will not be multiplied by wisdom points and Behemoth talent, will not be multiplied by any other % increased dmg (on robe, belt and potentially helmet) and will not be multiplied by essences. Meaning you will "lose potential damage" by picking the increased damage stat.

    But if you plan on using green essences all the time, you might like 3x wpn dmg/1x incr dmg. But I don't think 2x/2x will be worth it if your other items (torso, belt and helmet in particular) are pretty good (let's say over 35% damage on those).
    Just my feeling, I won't do the maths :p
     
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  5. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    That is why I did the math.

    In almost all circumstances, a 4x% increased damage on this item weapon will beat a mix of the two % damage stats. The fringe case is if you are only using green essence and never plan to use blues, purples, or reds.
     
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  6. Sepult1

    Sepult1 Forum Greenhorn

    Many thanks for the tips! I'll try to put it into practice ...
     
  7. jslaughter

    jslaughter Forum Apprentice

    so im still new to all this, especially crafting, but when it comes to your skills they all say they are a percentage of base damage like tesla is 200% of base damage, so does 4x increase damage on the item lines on your weapon give you a higher base damage for skills vs lines of just increased damage?

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    Also is the Royal Special Round Shotgun from Emilia actually a good weapon or is it oudated now with the latest updates?
     
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  8. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    Baragain already show the math:
    https://board-en.drakensang.com/threads/crafting-2-0-results.71512/page-41#post-669741
    % Increase damage on Item best if there are other items with % increase damage to amplify it.
    % increase damage best if there are items that can be amplify further more in total.
    Base damage of weapon is the biggest among other items. It is makes sense to choose % Increase damage on Item over % Increase damage to boost the weapon damage first. And let the % Increase damage come from other items such as helmet, belt & torso.
     
  9. jslaughter

    jslaughter Forum Apprentice

    so i have just over a 43% increase damage total from my armor so with the weapon it sounds like i should be focusing on 4x increase damage on the item according to the math, is that correct?
     
  10. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    Yes :)
     
  11. jslaughter

    jslaughter Forum Apprentice

    ok makes sense, so just one more question, what percent is the minimum i should be looking for for each of the 4 damage on the item lines? Or maybe simpler, what percent should the 4 lines total minimum to be considered worthwhile on a level 55 gun?
     
  12. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    For legendary weapon from pink, I consider 3x70%+ with random line being 40%+ is worthwhile. So it would be 250%+.
     
  13. jslaughter

    jslaughter Forum Apprentice

    thanks for the advice
     
  14. Arx_X

    Arx_X Advanced

    43% from all armor pieces? if so then you have a lot of optimization potential right there
     
  15. jslaughter

    jslaughter Forum Apprentice

    Yeah, i've gotten lucky finding legendary pieces with damage but not as lucky crafting a weapon, seems very difficult getting 4 lines to cross that will give as much as 250% damage. Best i've gotten so far is 150%, close but not there yet.
     
  16. jslaughter

    jslaughter Forum Apprentice

    So i have a question, i have read that when release 191 comes out the dwarf is basically being nerfed. I don't know how true this is because there are arguments on both sides, one side saying its just a bug fix with essence enhanced damage and the other saying its too much because its a 50% reduction in damage while using blue, purple and red essence. I don't know who or what to believe but if it does come down to mechs losing that much damage, is there a way to get it back. I barely can do parallel world bosses on painful now with red essence and even then i have to revive a few times but at least i can do it somewhat to get on the leaderboards. A 50% reduction would mean not even being able to do that much unless i can recover the damage somehow. Any thoughts or suggestions?
     
  17. -HARRA81-

    -HARRA81- Forum Mogul

    Farm and get good. My mage without ANY RUBIES in the gear has almost 12k damage with green essence with 2 handed weapon.
    Yeah, it will take time but...
     
  18. jslaughter

    jslaughter Forum Apprentice

    And whats the best map for farming in parallel worlds?
     
  19. UndergroundKiller

    UndergroundKiller Forum Expert

    if you can get there (and you don't have them), farm mortis rings in the first map of q6... It's a good one because it increases damages and attackspeed (wich is a multiplier to increase the machine gun tourret dmg)

    you can easily find a team for ring farming since it's good for all classes ;)
     
  20. jslaughter

    jslaughter Forum Apprentice

    great thanks

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    how does attack speed multiply turret damage?
     
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