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  1. jelbeat

    jelbeat Regular

    I have two things.

    1) I have two fairies in my inventory but only 1 of them can be found in the collector's bag.
    The difference between them is the movement speed (1 has 25% the other 4,75%).
    The one with 25% is in the collector's bag, what is the use of the other one?

    2) It's a good thing that the separate parts of the costumes for the PvP quests 5v5 and 6v6 are now in the collector's bag.
    But what about the players who has already finished those two quests?
    U can't expect from me that i buy those seperate parts, now i have only the last part (the complete costume).

    Is it possible to check everyone's collector's bag to see if one already has the armored lava hound (5v5) and/or the steam-powered chariot (6v6) and give those players the seperate parts of the costumes?
     
  2. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    EDIT it's not 2h weapons that made pvp imbalanced, it was BP screwing up the wisdom wisdom system when they put level 50
    Also, everyone is already forced to go 1h + shield in pvp,it was that way before r214 and it is the same now, because guess what, 2h weapons are outclassed by the combo 1h+shield and guess what, you could reach maximum offense and maximum defense with that build( you know, you could have 80% block rate, 80% crit rate and 400% crit dmg, for example, but apparently it's 2h weapons who are OP and made pvp imbalanced, but i do not have a galaxy brain)

    Also what you are suggesting is already being done by BP, everyone will be forced to use 1h+ shield in pvp, which is not good, it ruins diversity, and everyone will be forced to use 2h hand in pve
    Guess what, what you are suggesting is the same bullc*ap, but for 1h weapons, while one of the problems is lack of diversity

    Also the problems with PvE is overpowered bonus sets, not 2h weapons, but it's too much for you to realize that i guess
    Guess what, perhaps giving similar bonuses to 1h weapons could balance the gap between 2h and 1h+quiver combo

    And yes, pvp dedicated gear will solve much of the problems of pvp, it won't have op bonus sets, it won't let anybody get maximum offense and defense, it would be enchantable, gems and runes will work in pvp, it'll be much more balanced than now
     
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  3. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    You are disappointed with Infernal IV because it just came out. It has been the same with every new mode when that mode came out. 50% or more of the players would start complaining that mode is too difficult and BP should be insane to introduce this new mode. Monsters damage too much, how come we can do this.

    It has been the same when Fatal was introduced.
    Same when Infernal I came. I can remember many posts on the forum people were complaining, BP must be nuts, how can they expect us to survive in Infernal I?
    Same when Infernal II came, same when Infernal III came and now when Infernal IV came.

    Give it time, acquire new gear, new gems, get yourself stronger and then You can do it.

    Here is according to my calculations, with a full damage setup what You can achieve with this new Release 214 for a maximum strength build:

    270K HP
    40K Armor
    35K Resistance
    32K Crit Rate (More than enough to have 80% Crit on Inf IV)
    60k Max Damage
    5.0 Crit Damage (I hope BP removes this barrier)

    But, You don't need to be that strong to do Inf IV. But You can.
    In my opinion (just my opinion and no one else's) to do Infernal IV solo at a minimum You would need:

    120K HP
    30K Armor
    20K Resistance
    25k Crit Rate
    30k Damage
    4.5 Crit Damage

    As You can see that is nothing compared to what you can gain. But still would be enough to do all PW Infernal IV bosses and maps solo
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2019
  4. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Here comes the problems when noob player or average ones want to be on the on the high end and want to be on the level of endgamers without doing anything.
     
  5. HellenicMacedonian

    HellenicMacedonian Active Author

    Accumulation of draken cores is extremely boring.
     
  6. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    welcome to dso farming since 2016
     
  7. ghostmagicus

    ghostmagicus Forum Pro


    This event is an oportunity to make draken cores that shouldnt be missed. For example i use 10 event items, so i need 10x(400+450)=8500 drakens cor for upgrading to tier 8, thats a lot, but i think i will do it this event.
     
  8. HellenicMacedonian

    HellenicMacedonian Active Author

    Im aware of all this, but... you will need also to craft your items with some "platinum" lines, right?

    So, ten items tier#8 (10 x 500 = 5K).

    After a while, they will have introduction of inf#5 or 60lvl and keep going...

    So, if i go to the bear 10 times and take the half times draken cores... For me is mockery, but I used the expresion "extremely boring".

    The option to upgrade objects to level 8 is excessive... some greedy "dwarfs" in some "dungeons" must have thought about it!

    ...And of course, one can now understand with what rationality they "reworked" pvp in this way... The reason why did they take away the hard work of the players!

    In order to force them to use equipment at level 8, since only equipment counts and nothing else.
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2018
  9. ghostmagicus

    ghostmagicus Forum Pro



    Well, i, as a mage, i have lower status as u said may be minimum, but still able to do inf4 , dont scary noobs.
     
  10. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    he's accurately describing the mindset of some noobs, they want to immediatly start farming the maximum difficulty after arriving in Cardhun, without actually setting foot growing their bones and becoming more powerful
     
  11. glesia

    glesia Advanced

    well i done 1 run int the event. i dont see the point in doing the event anymore. i just dont see the point in farming for things. cant take it to pvp so whats the point of drakens and anderment now. i mean



    Im really at a loss here i dunno what to do anymore. i find no reason to spend my time playing this anymore...
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2018
  12. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    you dont need to repair anymore
    lower essences now give you 25% increased damage instead of 50
    you can buy and craft buffs to increase any stat you lack of
    you can buy pets and mounts for gold
    you can uprade pets
    you can buy runes of wisdom
    you can equip runes of wisdom and runes of materi drop simultaneusly
    you can upgrade royal gems
    etc...

    I played 2 days and I got 5000 gold so I bought some wisdom runes, pets, mounts, buffs
    if I farm 1 month I wont know what to do with gold.. crafts probably
     
  13. Divinefury

    Divinefury Forum Apprentice

    I've never stop farming in years, patch after patch, I always kept farming no matter what changes were.
    Right now, I must say this is the first time in years I log in and I don't know what to do, why should I farm, why should I keep playing this game.
    Apart the fact that all our efforts, hours of farm and money invested in PvP are useless right now, PvE doesn't seem at all better than before.
    The PvP itself is broken like never before, slow, boring, illogic.
    The only thing people are doing is trying to find more items with critical hit rate as possible because the damage output is too low and any 1v1 is basically only about who's more lucky in critical hits.
    Basically this "gearless" thing (I refuse to call it PvP) brought A LOT of problems PvP had during the past and I won't list it because I would need a day to do it.


    As "top player" I've been stacking resources for years, I've been crafting many items and right now I can easily obliterate any INF4 Q in Solo with my PRE R214 items without any problem.
    So what's the point? Why should I play?
    Platinum lines seems to be much more "rare" than old gold lines and the crafting system right now is more expensive both in terms of golds and (probably) time too.
    All the package of potions (HP, dmg, etc..) are completely useless for top players since we don't need them to do anything.
    Tier7 is uneeded (because of what I said yet) and the sistem about the T8 dropp is stupid, completely about luck as always.
    The only thing I wanted to do was upgrade my stones into new ones and, apart the fact that I farmed for NOTHING the past 6 years stacking royals gems since they are useless for crafting now, I can't even do it.
    To improve my char I'm FORCED to wait because of this *lmngdoandf* system because I first need to farm 500 gilded clovers for that recipe.
    For the other one (1000 clovers) I've been opening chests for 15.000 lockpicks last 2 days and I didn't find it, probably I won't find it with my others 12.000 left.
    Lately I didn't farm a lot, some hours and then an huge feeling of frustration, wondering I should play, what I was playing for, forced me to log out, but Ive been farming in maps where I should farm for gems' ingredients and I'm pretty sure to craft those stones it will take years.
    Dungeons should be the "new" thing here, but they are only a copy of an old map, without any different and funny mechanism, it's just a boring walking-kill map without any funny or/and new thing.


    To be honest I kinda understand what happened and why things are the way they are after REL214, but in my opinion is horrible.
    They splitted PvP and PvE into 2 game, then they made everything much more expensive (in terms of prizes and time) because right now PvE is the only thing to do, we don't have anymore to waste months more for PvP part (gears).
    In my opinion this is really the baddest thing I've ever seen in this game.
    I can't believe they think people will waste years farming same maps, same mobs, same dungeons, for what?
    To run them few seconds faster? To upgrade things they don't need to easily run them yet?
    I'm pretty sure this patch and the way they are taking is a failure, soon or later (matter of few months) even (ex) low players who are actually happy because they are getting stronger so fast will understand how everything is just a "illusion" and how boring things are gonna be ones they reach our level.


    Ps. If some Staffer can ask to Jesse what I suppose to do with my 1.5 milions andermants right now I'll be happy.
    You know I grinded my soul off for months for them, seems even andermants are useless now but I might be wrong.
     
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  14. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I was doing Infernal IV pretty comfortably with these sorts of stats. A little more damage, a little less armor/resist. Maps were easy, Bosses were tough, but doable... only the protector maps proved to be a true challenge, and if we're being honest, they wiped the floor with me until I learned that I needed to take the fight to the hallways.
     
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  15. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    Has anyone else experienced some new nebula3 crashes, eg. when changing between characters?
     
  16. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Yes, maybe. I really do not know what the error msg is since I play on IE (no need to read them just refresh.) But whatever it was it is happening occasionally, as you said, when switching toons.
     
  17. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    i experienced it when quitting the game
     
  18. ghostmagicus

    ghostmagicus Forum Pro

    Can someone tell exactly what are rewards for PVE leaderboards after release 213/214? As i seen, seems to be totally obsolete and should be reworked.
     
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  19. LordKotton

    LordKotton Forum Apprentice

    my main problem is the fact that now You have to farm 4 times as much for cores .. u got a 1 in 4 chance of getting draken cores now.. :(.. like you said 450 cores.for T7 will take whole event to get enough for 1 pieces.. Someone had a great idea...NOT! by the time u get enough cores to do all your equipment it will be outdated
     
  20. 9ndrei

    9ndrei Forum Expert

    Here's an improvement you need to implement ASAP. Oncrease the drop rate of Spirit Stones or remove them altogether. You removed the Jesters and added a LOW drop from chests. When the stones in game run out, events will get even more harder to finish and not just events.. everything, this will get all of us frustrated and will add to the overall dislike of your update.
     
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