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  1. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    My problem is that I have 5 flawless sapphires on my dk (and 4 or 5 radiant's in storage/alt 1H weapons) and 4 flawless sapphires/1 radiant sapphire on my mech.... I could conceivably farm enough anders to use the joker gems to get a bunch of those up to sacred, and leave the rubies alone for now. Royals seem out of reach now and unless I want to complete the credit card quest (I don't). Not sure which way I want to go.....
     
  2. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Perhaps this will help. Old gems are crafting like they always have (remember... test server... could change.) So what I would do in this situation is get the saph's in storage up to sacred and hang on to it for now. Later on, when you have some of the new speed runes to offset the loss of mashing the sacreds to royals then craft those.

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
  3. Kaimooks

    Kaimooks Forum-Apprentice

    Game is already a graveyard! All my friends quit already so I'm moving games too where the company doesn't bleed players from time or money. This game had so much potential but BP got $$$ goggles on. Game has already lost really nice players.. ones that don't bully and troll .. ones that help so this is last straw really. I have a job.. a life and to play a game that makes me feel worn out and worse instead of destressing.. uh uh! I've also seen people continue to double log and nothing. Maybe this is a bid to get rid of f2p.. well done! Mission accomplished.
     
  4. jayr3d

    jayr3d Regular

    can you show me stats of dks and Ra's too?
     
  5. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    An all this because they dont use properly test server to discover bugs befor they introduce the event in the game.Such a shame that we must pay for incompetence.
    They could easely add the test server in client server list and let us copy one character from real server so that so that we can test the new events.
    A small prize on real server if you report a bug form test server will be nice and can make players diging for them.
    Solutions solutions.. if only they listen players.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2017
  6. SUPERDOUPER

    SUPERDOUPER Junior Expert

    how come there is no new skills coming with lev 55 expansion? or is the bp keeping that a secret till it get to live server, and why does saphires get removed from the game . what will happen to the ones we already have. will it be replaced or we get to keep them, ?
     
  7. mjmuju

    mjmuju Junior Expert

    Pretty bummed when I heard there will be an expansion lv 55, but not complaining, it's just because I'm a noob who just got really happy when I finally completed my t3 old dragan set last month and have bunch of craft material which haven't properly crafted because my tough luck. And then I read about this new changes on gem/rune while my highest tier gem is one level above radiant (forgot the name) and just the one... and still no official announcement about when the lv 55 patch implemented on live server (or maybe there is? Can someone tell me pls).
    IMO, if you guys want to make a huge changes like this, you should've "warned" players about it long, long before it happens or even long before you implemented that on TS so we can anticipate what to do with our (live server) chars. And it needs to be an official statement from you, not just a foggy rumours or something like that. Now I'm on confused phase, I'm not sure if I should sell/melt those craft material right now. And should I buy bloodtooth now? Should I spent all of my ander to buy sapphires? Should I use my free deluxe bonus now? What should I do, I can't tell anymore. My long term plans had just crashed and honestly too scared to do anything from now on.
    I know I'm not a veteran player who gives any positive contribution nor spent my real money in this game and maybe doesn't give you any significant financial benefits, but at least I'm allowed to speak about my concerns, right? :(

    *now playing: R.E.M - Losing My Religion*
     
  8. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    That is because this is a huge game changer ... this is not the same game anymore ... everything has been changed. Therefore players have no time to learn all the changes ... that is why no complains.

    Don't do anything ... just farm resources.
    Don't buy Gnob's sets they are obsolete now ... and will remain obsolete.
    If they make changes in the future you can buy them then.

    I was at TS yesterday ... and someone asked me about these changes ... I don't know who that was ... but I thought I would share the conversation :D

    [​IMG]
     
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    How would I do that? I have only my SW there.
     
  10. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    I would focus on farming resources and little else at this point. As for dumping anders into sapphires... well my main does not need to do this but I did do this on my alt accounts yesterday while the 3 polished sapph packs that were on sale. (They are just alt accounts so I felt it was worth the gamble.)

    Unfortunately, it is unlikely that much i the way of official info will be forth coming. Recall the policy shift to post patches after the release? So the official info will happen after this goes live. All anyone can do is "best guess: moves based on the limited info that is filtering in from players on the TS.

    Do not you your Deluxe freemium now. They will be way more important as you fumble your way thru the new content.

    Do not spend draken now. 2 new items have shown up on Gnob, more may follow.

    Yes, long term plans are pointless now. This is not just a level cap raise. It is essentially an entirely different game from level 50+
    You most definitely have the right. Good F2P players are an invaluable part of this community. I am P2P. Only a very small fraction since my return to the game compared to my first 3years. Among other worthy contributions F2P players have provided me with countless insights that have saved me from buying hundreds of thousands of anders.

    *now playing: R.E.M - It's the end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine)* :)
    Next up: *Everybody Hurts* ;)

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
  11. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    One would think that after the mass exodus of R155, DSO would put just a little more thought into improving things for players instead of blindsiding them.

    Since that epic fail, they've lost their Community Managers (the last one made it like a month), resorted to hiding patch notes until after the fact, and now they are for all intents and purposes hiding the new expansion details.

    You really have to love the logic of keeping players in the dark.

    Is this the final nail in the coffin? Probably not, but I do expect plenty of the older players will finally throw in the towel and go to one the popular games that DSO poorly rips off or maybe one of those new ones with plenty of character classes to choose from.
     
  12. Nostradamus88

    Nostradamus88 Active Author

    ahahah take it easy, bro. Just enjoy the game
     
  13. TestTestTest

    TestTestTest Forum-Greenhorn

    After R155 the game lost its balance in PvE. You can read that in the chat, where the demand for certain class is significantly higher than others, you can recognize it from your currently online users stats, if you have a special class stat.
    I guess most of the users were expecting (if any big change) a change in this disbalance. And what is the result?
    A new BIG critical hit rate nerf - YES, this is the biggest change in this release, not the attack speed.

    In the same time the last change in balance was caused mainly by a crit nerf, where there was only one class, which couldn't feel th consequences. Now additionally to the crit nerf, we have 10 extra damage/attack speed slots for runes to the 5 saphires and attack speed lines in the modifier. Isn't the gap between SMs and the others bigger in PvE? What happens to the 2H crit. DK (the only solo farm option for this class) without the crit from the left side items? I understand you need to make the DK become a tank only because of the new melee class, but why so rude? What happens with the money/time invested in rubies (if we are talking PvE only)?
     
  14. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    This new crit nerf affects all 3 classes. A new legendary quiver for RA can have a base crit value way lower than a white item. And I have yet to see a CHR line on the other enchantments (granted I have only seen greens and blues so far) The enchantment lines on offhands for all classes are often bizarre and useless things like +5% increased hp on this item.

    The go-to build for SW's has been 2h. Same problem here as the 2h DK. An sw could try to salvage some dps with a very fast 1h if they have old big Sapphs but the book suffers from the same problem as the quiver.

    As for DK's being forced to 1h tank mode there is another problem. Unless they already have a very good block shield there is also a huge block rate nerf in this release. A new DK will neither be able to 2h or tank now with the new gear.

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
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  15. Mesala

    Mesala Advanced

    This sums up what I am thinking exactly, thousands of hours spent, gazzilion of gold/anders, only to be nerfed (lets call it as it is) to a broken down 2 hand tank unable to crit hit something.
    If you thought there are a lot of dwarfs before, after this expansion they will be multiplying like ants, since their class is the only one that fully benefits from this release because:

    A) they don't need critical
    B) they get to use now 'old' sapphires fully and I am forced to abandon them because critical onyxes are the new best thing for Dk's right now

    So instead of looking forward to new content and new fun and games, I get to stare at a 2 million anders worth of worthless sapphires in my inventory. And to think people are scared because they can't have them anymore lol. Newsflash: they are useless since you can kiss goodbye to your critical hitrate.

    To clarify, instead of 63% hitrate, 250% crit dmg, I'll be on 50% hitrate (if I am lucky) and 180% crit dmg.

    Summed up:

    New expansion = critical hitrate nerfdown
    correction

    Offensive nullification of rangers, DK's, and spellweavers.


    Only hope I am still clinging on to continue playing this game is that Gnob will eventually show up a rune with hitrate for drakens.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2017
  16. jayr3d

    jayr3d Regular

    As you all seen and heard on the latest most greatest DSO news, will Ash and Pikachu win? or no. stay tuned as we return for the last and final episode of what happens to DSO's future, will it finally die out maybe so....
     
  17. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    Everyone thinks SM class has been overlooked. Dwarf got crit nerfed too btw. Lots of SM players use 1 hand gun and shield and rely on crit hit and crit damage. They get a lot more block that way, same with ALL classes. So big deal, a player using 2 hand SM is not affected by the crit nerfing, never had the crit issue to start with so just MAYBE the other classes using 2 hand weapons have to realize going all damage mode is a different playstyle and MAYBE try it out before you cry about dwarf abilities.
    DK's have eternal hp regen...waaaaah...your 2 hand crit got nerfed but guess what, you don't die anywhere near as fast as a dwarf does, or RA or SW with or without block from shield so puh-LEAZE stop crying about crit nerf on your 2 hand. DSO spoiled DK rotten with all the HP regen they get.
    People say 155 killed the game and many left. But many more stayed and adapted. Guess what, good or bad, this expansion patch is what it is. Adapt and play or cry about it for months until forum vacations are handed out. It's a money patch that is true but we don't have to pay because most endgame players now have pretty decent builds and gear that can easily carry them to lvl 55 and beyond.
    Had they first worked on getting all the bugs out and finishing leader board for guild/group play then that would have been best all around. But it is DSO and we all know that they do what they want before they look at the players issues with game.
    SO next tuesday if patch goes as scheduled, ALL the servers are going to be full, there will be many login errors because the servers will be full to capacity and you'll ALL be there too. See you in the chaos.
     
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  18. mjmuju

    mjmuju Junior Expert

    Yeah, that's why I said I wasn't complaining, just voicing my concerns hehe
    if only I could transfer all useful items from your wiki to my char.... Then I would be prepared to move on :p

    I wonder about that... Why they made this policy, is there any advance information prior to this policy change? iirc they always announced any changes/update before the patch release, right? What's the ultimate purpose to this change?

    Okay, based on your and traki advices, from now on I will just farming PWs. Maybe trying to climb up leader board to get more anders. Well, better update my mp3 playlist and TV series to accompany me while I grinding those maps then. Maybe it's time to re-watch Breaking Bad or HIMYM, again.

    But how about my crafting material? Do I still need to craft those, sell/melt, or maybe just let those gold lines rotten in my bag? Oh, the agony...
    Thanks to your advice, Mikey and Trakey. Oh wow, you guys are cute together. :p

    *now playing: The Cure - Boys Don't Cry*

    haha yes I know... It's just that because I like this game and this game is the highest spec my laptop can "afford". And I can play this game at my workplace too (PC on my workplace isn't better than my laptop).
     
  19. GoddessofWar1000

    GoddessofWar1000 Forum-Apprentice

    just want to know if bp is going to drop critical hit rate again...last lvl increase, many player's crt hit was reduced and took a year to re-gain.....some are saying they will delete thier accoutns if stats are reduced, yet again !!!!!! pls. reply
     
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  20. _Mastah_

    _Mastah_ Forum-Greenhorn

    Armor/ressistance/block rate/block chance/critical hit rate will go down with every lvl that you make toward lvl 55.
    6k crit value will be like 30% at lvl 55 or so and not over 50% like it is now.
     
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