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Best PvP Build Post-R213/214

Discussion in 'PvP (Player vs. Player)' started by piteris2, Nov 12, 2018.

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  1. piteris2

    piteris2 Padavan

    Hello all,

    It would be nice if we could all post some ideas for reference about the best items/combinations for the arena after this new release goes live. Please remember that this is theoretical and is subject to change, depending on how the final release goes live on the main servers.

    Some suggestions I have heard:

    1. Green items at max tier will have high(est) base stats, and will be the easiest to obtain since bosses will hardly drop good legendaries anymore.

    2. PW uniques will still be feasible at max tier as they have decent base stats by default.

    3. Specifically, 1H and defensive is the way to go due to the block buff in the arena.

    ...
    Feel free to post whatever you wish with regards to this; it will undoubtedly be useful for future reference.
     
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  2. emmaaxxx

    emmaaxxx Someday Author


    Full amon set, cause the matery cost they have in order to buy is cheap so u can buy a lot times till find gold stats. Then tier it to max lvl. Tiering up is easy now cause of matery cost for augment cores on new release.

    Shield i would suggest , the halloween/ghost shield cause ti gives 3k-4k crit instead of all resist. The problem with it is that it needs dracens, so u cant have it with max block rate (gold base stat) only if u r lucky.
     
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  3. piteris2

    piteris2 Padavan

    I know this will sound stupid but I can’t seem to find where these items are sold in Cardhun (on test server). Is this a bug or what?
     
  4. emmaaxxx

    emmaaxxx Someday Author

    Indeed i cant find it too, i didnt thought it wont be on new rel or test server, right now on live server is sold on the npc just right from blacksmith, it only costs 1500 matery per, u can buy plenty of them till find gold base stats, there is nothing cheaper from this (unique gear i mean)
     
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  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

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  6. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    Nah you guys are not really serious about this
    Firstly legendary items have the highest base stats of the non unique class items
    Secondly consider something like the gwenfara cloak on t6 it has high base values hp armor and resist
    Then all those players that still has lvl50 items like bloodtooth on lvl50 (since the enchantments are in base? they might be good)
    you will also have to look for high tier items with unique bases like the dragan pouldrons.
    the wolf slayer shield might be popular due to crit in the base
    Maybe there's players that can think of other parts?
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2018
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  7. piteris2

    piteris2 Padavan

    Thanks for the input.
    But remember that with this patch, legendaries will most likely be much, much harder to farm (because that is how it is on TS right now), greens are much easier to obtain and they will probably be at least half decent for gearless PvP.
     
  8. emmaaxxx

    emmaaxxx Someday Author




    Legendaries items will be on tier 7 max, when uniques will be till tier 9 or maybe more. Shield for tanksn the best would be the ghost halloween shield, wolf shield gives only 2k crit rate when ghost shield give 4k crit rate, its obvious better, but it needs dracen to buy.
     
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  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    What are you talking about? :)
    Unique items and leg items are on same Tier. In fact legendary items are on one tier higher than unique items.
    In order to upgrade tier on a unique item you have to already have legendary item on one tier higher than the tier of the unique item.
    Unique Item T7 + Legendary Item T8 + Augment Core + Core = Unique item T8

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    Dude, you don't farm legendary items ... you craft them :p
    You only need one T8 improved/magic/exo item in order to craft T8 Legendary.
    As for the green, magic, exo and leg items ... read below:
    That is not true.
    Leg items depending on Tier are having same or higher base stats than Unique Items. But as I said that depends on their Tier.
    I already made comment on this topic somewhere around here ... but you people don't read :p
    I was about to make additional guide on Wiki ... but I am not really into mood ... besides ... I don't want to share info with newer and weaker players anymore :D
    In short: Excluding GoP upgrade ... Unique items can be upgraded only by Tier while regular items can be upgraded in 2 ways in same time ... by Tier and Rarity.

    That might only work for DKs not for the other classes. HP is much more important than Armor.
    Again another advantage for DKs ... not a single other class has an item with both BS/BR + Crit Hit.
    Even without this item they are OP ... with the item they are almost immortal.
    Everything i have said in my suggestion showed up to be true ... and every single prediction can be shown in action with the next release.
    That was one of the reasons why in my suggestion i said "some base stats should be completely removed".
    where did you get that?
    They have no base stats ... meaning they have 0 stats working in PvP .
    Besides, they said "Legacy items will not be working in the arena".
     
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  10. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    That was the reason for the question mark I wasnt sure if the old items has the stats as enchantments or as base stats, thus I asked
    As for the offensive off hand
    for those same reasons for farming purposes I cannot build an offensive 1h dk
    and by that I mean I cant enchant my crit shield with attack speed, critical damage or anything else
     
  11. primal

    primal Forum-Greenhorn

    What do you think-which weapon will be better for new gearless pvp for DK?Vargulf axe or Twin Queen weapon?
     
  12. bassevents94

    bassevents94 Forum-Apprentice

    maybe an idea, pvp is only results to base value, sw + ranger and sm go to full crit and dmg

    i was thinking about 1 hand wapen of arachna ( q2) or twin queen weapon + or a shield ( golden blockrate) or off handtool ( golden crit hit rate)

    + shouders of dragan

    all the rest of equitment is base values with golden stats
     
  13. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    i dont know if you are trolling in some way or just dont know anything,

    Why build such thing for pvp ... the unique values and set bonuses are INNACTIVE so unique boots or legs no difference only the base dmg and so on ....
    In fact tanks will get block buff for arena but ofc crit dmg wont go above 200%.. so arena doesnt exist anymore for me if somebody says arena ill just pretend i havent heard anything , with this patch 50% of dso is gone we are jsut waiting for the other 50 to die and wither away
     
  14. elitecrew1031

    elitecrew1031 Junior Expert

    arena
     
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  15. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    ye arena......
    idk what sets are you speaking of and what sw+ ranger full crit.

    The only one who gets the most of this retardet update is yet again Dk having crit on axes plus shields.....
    so this thread is dead pvp is dwarfs and tanks end of story
     
  16. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Rangers and SWs can never have full Crit Hit ... while the tanks will always have full block and almost full Crit Hit.
    There are only 2 options damage dealers have
    1. Above 70% Crit Hit + ~60% Block Rate (without BS - default 1 BS)
    2. 50% or less crit hit and Full BR (2 BS)
    In both cases they lose.

    As can be seen in the screenshot you can get 60% Block by only wearing one item.
    Opposite to that all your crit hit from all of your items can't reach even close to max .
    In the screenshot I am using wand with highest possible crit + the Best Book + dragan's pauldrons (60% block)

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    That is how much broken the new arena is. It is even more broken than the current arena because in the current arena you have only one option - Cube Set - ... in the new gearless arena you have no options at all. No matter what you select you can't match tanks.
    This is how fighting against tank looks like: you have no crit damage and enough crit hit to fight against the block. They have more HP and your slightly higher Base Damage is not working because it is almost the same as tank's base damage ... because there are no multipliers to make a difference. So you deal same damage as they do ... but they will always have higher HP. And the best part is ... when you both take down each other's HP over time small chunk by small chunk ... at the end they heal to full HP in few seconds while you will be left sucking your thumb.
     
  17. Viki

    Viki Forum Mogul

    so true. it's also incomprehensible why the pvp comes in this form on the live server, it will not attract more players into the arena, but exactly the other way around.
    Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the reduction of damage in PvP, I also think it's good that there will be no more 1 hit kills. but to calculate only the base of the items without adjusting the skills and the PvP tree is just madness.

    Btw. OP block strength @trakilaki :p:D
     
  18. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    All my items are OP ... yet I have no chance even before the fight is started :)
    Yeah only ~60% block but because it is a result only from the pauldrons while playing with a book. I have tested all the combinations ... that one was best for me and my game play.
    Otherwise I can use this shield which won't make any difference
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    SW is the lowest of the lowest in the next "gearless" release.
     
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  19. Viki

    Viki Forum Mogul

    I know, I also did some laps with my noob equip in PvP on the test server. And I can also confirm that without critical damage as a Mage and Ranger you won't stand a chance against classes that have healing skills. Basically, these classes only have to run to get a sure victory in 1vs1 and 3vs3. It's actually logical and you don't have to be a genius to see that. For every player who has a little knowledge of PvP, it remains to be seen if something will change in the near future. If not, it's also not worth to continue with the game, in my opinion. not for pvp.

    Also true, because SW has no running speed due to skills. the ice sphere is very slow. meteor and destruction are in PvP not usable because really much too slow. Other skills have low damage output. Plus no healing and low HP.
     
  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Oh BTW it was only the answer to the previous post
    If you change the pauldrons you would at least get HP like in my first screenshot :)
     

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