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Suggestion Bring back sapphires!

Discussion in 'Creative Corner' started by ΣMiwel, Nov 15, 2018.

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Do you want Sapphires to make a great comeback?

  1. Yes

    58.3%
  2. No

    41.7%
  1. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    The suggestion is simple. Bring back sapphires to drop as absolute-bonus attack speed gems.
    Every single old percentage value would be changed into absolute one.
    Gem name​
    Percentage value (live server)​
    Proposed absolute value​
    Flawed Sapphire​
    +0.50%​
    +0.005​
    Splintered Sapphire​
    +1.00%​
    +0.010​
    Simple Sapphire​
    +1.80%​
    +0.018​
    Sapphire​
    +3.10%​
    +0.031​
    Polished Sapphire​
    +5.00%​
    +0.050​
    Radiant Sapphire​
    +6.60%​
    +0.066​
    Flawless Sapphire​
    +8.60%​
    +0.086​
    Sacred Sapphire​
    +11.00%​
    +0.110​
    Royal Sapphire​
    +14.00%​
    +0.140​
    With that, %Increased Attack Speed on this Item enchantments should be introduced as possible on weapons and weapon decorations. Old "increased weapon attack speed" could be renamed to this thing.

    I believe this is the only solution to the problem of legacy sapphires still hanging in equipment of some of the old players (including mine), while both not harming them, letting the newcomers have these powerful gems too, and making the gems in line with the gem/rune division system based on whether the value given is percentage or absolute. This would also increase the flexibility of builds, not forcing everyone to use rubies in weapon and onyxes in decoration as the current system does.

    Please voice your opinion beneath and in the poll. If this gets enough attention and gets high vote in the poll, there's a great chance this gets done instead of the theft we have in the TS.
     
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  2. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    Devs already have a solution, which is to convert these gems into runes and that's what they gonna do, no matter what. Don't misunterstand my words, I don't have a problem with people wanting to keep their sapphires, since they/we (because I also paid to get 5 flawless back in the day) spent money and time farming them. But the devs actions were like this:

    DEV1: "Sapphires are VERY powerful multipliers, we need people getting rid of them at all costs."
    DEV2: "Yes, take them away, so they must build attack speed the hard way (farming runes, buying clovers and crafting)."
    DEV3: "Ok, but what can we do to fill the emptiness left by the removing of them?"
    DEV1: "In the old days people used to refuse Onyxes. What if we make them important and useful NOW so they start buying 2 new items: Onyxes and Speed Runes?
    DEV3: "Yes, but why people should buy Onyxes when they can equip an Offensive Off-hand and get all the critical hit rate they need at no cost?"
    DEV2: "Simple! Let's nerf 1H builds so they do no damage compared to 2H ('cause you know, players are blinded by nothing more than damage) and let's make the only way to gain critical hit rate with 2H is buying tons of Onyxes."

    DSO TEAM: "OMG!!! BRING SOME COOKIES TO THIS GENIUSSSSS!!!!!"

    EDIT: I voted "NO" because I don't like the idea of farming another gem/item and icrease it again.
     
  3. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    The_New_Owner: DEV1, DEV2, DEV3 ... there is the door. Close it from outside!
    (picking up the phone) ... Hello ... Disneyland? Could you send 3 new devs today?

    No, you voted "NO" because you were either part of the "Disneyland Project" or because of butthurt because you were not so smart and converted your Blues to runes.

    No cookies for you!
     
    MikeyMetro likes this.
  4. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    It seems the butthurt is someone else, not me. Sorry, no Disneyland either.
     
  5. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Ambassador

    Are they powerful?Sapphires stop being useful once you reach the maximum attack speed breakpoint, kinda like crit dmg runes, once you reach 400% they stop being useful

    i voted yes
     
  6. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    Traki is right. You're simply hypocritical.

    First, you're saying
    Then
    You're hiding the true reason for your opposition to the idea (butthurt 'cause others would have some good gems from start and you not because you went for the "refining") under the cloak of "understanding but".
     
  7. ghostmagicus

    ghostmagicus Forum Pro

  8. Veteran666

    Veteran666 Someday Author

  9. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    I'm fine with YOU people keeping your sapphires and I AM fine with no having them anymore. In other words (for close minded - blinded eyes people like you) I voted NO because I don't want to farm them again, but I don't care if old players keep their current gems. Where's the hipocrisy on that sentence? You're just being hysterical because you think you "bought" something that doesn't belong to you in the first place.
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2018
  10. Veteran666

    Veteran666 Someday Author

    Guys there is no reason to make bitter comments in forum,we all are still playing DSO despite the problems and we are not enemies in real life.We can use pvp arena if we want to do some fight,just saying.Peace
     
    _G_R_A_M_P_S_ and Shine2 like this.
  11. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Cringiest sentence as a whole/

    @trakilaki why so much hate towards smb who said no ,uh if you want to use them ok but why cant other ppl say no
    If your petition is right and they bring back sapphires you the ones who have em will say hahah we won , while the ones who changed theirs will be [EDIT], and if the petition fails you will get screwed and others wont. So you are all being hypocritical since you are loosing because of the devs , but if you won probably your answer traki will be ironical and smt like "shouldnt have transformed you blues hehehehehe"

    This forum reminds me why humans are trash, being disgusting to one another when they want smt and when they are right(in their mind)

    The problem is that those who bought them withg real money scream uhhhhhhhhhh i used money so uhhhhhhhh im always right.\
    When in reality if your car breaks due to weather conditions, YOU are the one who pays for the fix.
    When lv 55 came they introduced refiners, so that you wont loose your precious speed.
    3.000 and even above speed is achieveable on 2h , and since 3.33 for some classes is the max i dont see a reason why you go overkill and use saphire for 4.00 after YOU DONT BENEFIT from overcapping atack speed.

    If you want to spend money you have to think about all the possible outcomes.
    Idk spend money on food or smt. And if you have too much money then dont cry on the forum ...
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2018
  12. Veteran666

    Veteran666 Someday Author

    I am 40 years old and almost 30 years gamer.I have played a ton of games with thousands of gaming hours.I have a golden rule,when i dont like a game then i stop playing that game.You should do the same thing if you dont like DSO anymore and stop writting agressive comments in forun insteed.Have a very nice day dude :) P.S. Trakilaki is boss around here and i agree with him most of the times.
     
    Last edited by moderator: Nov 17, 2018
  13. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    your answer is somewhere between the both quote and /quote

    Second who said i dont like it, did you even get my message ?
     
  14. Veteran666

    Veteran666 Someday Author

    Yes i got your message.Back to the topic now,i believe that sapphires should return in DSO.It would be good for new and old players.
     
  15. ghostmagicus

    ghostmagicus Forum Pro

    You seems to be also pretty agrressive when you sugest that anyone must apply your "golden rule". Maybe i dont like your rule, you have to respect that.
     
  16. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Ambassador

    you should not be bragging about being a gamer and how did you survive the great gamer genocide of 2014 that happened because a female developer cheated on her boyfriend?
     
  17. Veteran666

    Veteran666 Someday Author

    It seems that some people around here will say anything to enforce their opinions to others.I don't care to play their game and i am not forcing anyone to accept my opinion.We are already out of topic,so i stop here.Have a nice day people:)
     
  18. Mal3ficent

    Mal3ficent Board Administrator Team Drakensang Online

  19. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Honestly, they should have just converted saphhires to runes of equivalent speed values when they introduced rune slots and made the values somewhat identical (such that a 14% speed royal sapphire was converted to a rune of celerity with similar speeds of 14%). This whole business of legacy sapphires and two classes of celerity runes should have never come to pass, as new players were never able to reach the speeds of old players during the current legacy sapphire/2 runes classes setup which resulted in an oncoming overcompensation of old players are now getting hammered with two bad conversion rates.

    Yes, there are only 4 tiers of runes, and something like 10 tiers of gems, but the more or less straight up shifting of could have easily been addressed with more accurate conversion rates.
     
    MikeyMetro likes this.
  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    They should have never touched them .
     

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