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Discussion in 'Questions about Getting Started in the Game' started by wildmonkey, Jul 31, 2018.

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  1. wildmonkey

    wildmonkey Forum-Apprentice

    I havent find any tutorials or any tips how to craft i searched for hours yt nothing wiki nothing . I have tried crafting belts wich all have increase damage example i get 4 green belts wich all have increase damage then upgrade them and until legendarie but does it work like that ? Because sometimes when i craft from any rarity to the next one it just gives me a small % increase even lower than before i crafted all of those 4 belts.
     
  2. Angellooo

    Angellooo Forum-Apprentice

    This is the best way to get good items
    0 - not gold bonus
    1, 2, 3 - gold bonus

    Crafting:
    From green to blue
    1 0 0 0
    From blue to pink
    1 1 0 0
    From pink to legend
    2 2 0 0
    From legend to full gold legend
    3 3 0 0
     
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  3. Yogo

    Yogo Forum Great Master

    Have a look HERE and HERE - really cool read.
     
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  4. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Don't let Trakilaki read that... he works hard to be the single best source of information on the game, and as Yogo linked, the wiki does indeed have a rather exhaustive guide.
     
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  5. wildmonkey

    wildmonkey Forum-Apprentice

    Idk i might even some time when i understand drakensang allot better make a youtube channel and start a character from 0 and do allot of tutorials

    ---MERGED---

    Ohh ok i think i finally got something so gold lines is when the enchant is in gold color ?
     
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  6. callme0216

    callme0216 Advanced

    This will show you how much chance you have to craft with certain amount of gold lines ,agains the whole item lines.

    For example: Look below to the Legendary to Legendary craft.
    8 to 16 means you have 8 gold line out of 16 lines of enchaments.
    3x3x1x1 Legendary craft to succeed you have 3,85% chance.
    Good luck.

    [​IMG]

    About this all i have to say ,this is a good way to ran out of gold really quickly.

    Green craft is right. But i only craft greens to blue with 2h weapons.
    1-0-0-0
    Blue craft is:
    1-1-1-1
    Pink:
    2-2-1-1
    Legendary is:
    3-3-1-1

    Enjoy.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2018
  7. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    They don't need the crafting chance ... they still don't know the crafting basics.
    Really? so how come i am not running out of gold? :D
    Your way of crafting is not a good way to attain good enchantments on item since you would accept rubbish from the 3-4 slots.
    1/0/0/0 or 0/1/0/0
    1/1/0/0
    2/2/0/0
    3/3/0/0
    is the way to go.
    If by chance you have extra items to burn you can put them in 3-4 but don't expect success unless you are extremely lucky.
     
  8. callme0216

    callme0216 Advanced

    You might not ran out.
    That way of crafting is cost soo much more.
    I dont know how much more time would i need if i would craft leg weapons with 3-3-0-0 since i dont got a good one for 1 year.

    If someone see the crafting that way better, feel free to do that.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2018
  9. wildmonkey

    wildmonkey Forum-Apprentice

    So your saying from legend to full gold i need 2 legendaries with 3 gold lines ?
     
  10. Zoltan

    Zoltan Junior Expert

    I think what all are saying it is to try and improve your chances as much as possible. Although whichever way you go the chances of success remain slim of actually getting the result you want.

    In theory you could get a 4gl legendary item with 1,1,1,1 0r 2,2,0,0 but the changes are you wont. So by using 3,3,0,0 or 3,3,1,1 you are giving yourself the best chance.

    So yes, depending on your preference have a 3gl legendary item in first two spots of the crafting bench and then either two 1gl legendary items in final two spots or if prefer two legendary items with no gl
     
  11. Angellooo

    Angellooo Forum-Apprentice

    Yes, the best way is 3300 or if you find good enchantments 3311 or 3322. 3333 is trash, bcose all time if I craft like this, waste good items for only 2/3 gold XD
    3333 = 2/3 gold, sometimes 4 :D
     
  12. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Ask yourself this... which is more difficult to come by; Good gold enchantments, or stuff to sell for gold?

    Crafting 3/3/3/3 only has a 27% chance of success, but you will lose two items that cost you thousands of gold to make and 4+ good gold lines.

    It is much easier to farm more gold and just try and try and try again with junk items and more gold. Eventually, if you throw enough gold and junk items at the crafting bench with your two good items, you will succeed.
     
  13. wildmonkey

    wildmonkey Forum-Apprentice

    Can you tell me what the outcome should be of these trades ?
     
  14. KingKrazy1

    KingKrazy1 Active Author

  15. nvmind

    nvmind Regular

    3/3/0/0 is very risky, I wouldn't do it again. I remember after one leaderboard season I spent 25k on 3/3/0/0 and all failed. Legs with 2 gold lines are easy to craft and worth the effort and gold. From 4 red items with one gold line each the chance is very good to get one leg with 2 lines.
     
  16. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    3/3/0/0 is my standard craft for legendary to legendary. I'll use 1/4s and 2/4 if they drop, but I'm not stuck to them. Using 3/3/0/0, I've crafted 4x 4/4 legendary items in the last month, at a price tag of about 30k gold. Not bad in my book.
     
  17. KingKrazy1

    KingKrazy1 Active Author

    According to my calculations, it costs on average 20.9K gold to craft 3/3/0/0 to 4/4 (if you don't have premium/deluxe). This means Baragain saved almost 50K gold by being lucky (much less of course if one includes premium) while nvmind only lost 5k from the average. If this doesn't show why the crafting bench as a whole is unfair, I don't know what would.
     
  18. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    But I do have premium... even deluxe at the moment, so that helps immensely. Also, my gold calculation is only based off of how many cubes I sold and how much gold I got from the leaderboards. I likely also earned another couple thousand from selling items since I don't melt anything but legendaries and uniques these days. Also, some of the crafts were 3/3/1/0 or 3/3/1/1, so that would improve the "average" even though all of those attempts failed.
     
  19. KingKrazy1

    KingKrazy1 Active Author

    Of course, and I am not saying you don't deserve your successful crafts. I am just pointing out the difference in your situation and nvmind's which highlights why the crafting system as it is currently implemented is not a good game mechanic. It pulls many out of the game experience instead of pulling them into it, which is what crafting should ideally be doing.
     
  20. Phyrix

    Phyrix Exceptional Talent

    My crafting sucks
    And my crafting is not bad either
    people push for gold lines because that's the norm
    getting those amazing 4 gold lines.... whatever
    If you read some of the threads some more experienced players has posted that crafting a 3.5 is acceptable
    Did you know in damage terms on a belt 9.102 is not a gold line?
    Even just 4 of those will render you 36.408% increased damage
    I am not good at crafting, however I have enough smarts to know what will work for me now and what will work for me later.
    What will work for me later is 4 perfect gold lines
    What works for me now is whatever rockets my stats now, not 50k gold down the line.
    When you play you have to bear in mind that you need something to do at end game
    that extra 3 to 4% just might extend the longevity of your own gameplay in the game.
    The methodology albeit expensive, it works my max damage now is 26.8k and I am about to recraft my weapon <- yes twice in 3 weeks
    However after that my damage will be 28.8k a whole 2k gain.
    This has a bad edge too I will need minimum 285.5% idoti on a weapon to beat that craft
    The good part is that I can take months getting that level of idoti or more.
    If by next year this time there is new metas I will have had ample time to prep for them and in the meantime I enjoy the strengths I gain now.

    Regarding metas I do use multiple gold values.
    One thing about trakis' method and I can attest to that, is that he gets exactly the highest values and he makes sure he does that by selecting what the base gold values will be, this method of 1100 2200 3300 shines in that regard and in that regard alone.
    However using this method traki is able to get 204%+ idoti on a 1h weapon
    For myself as a beginner though 2 gold lines and 2 near gold lines means 270% idoti on a 2h weapon.
    Even if the norm is getting higher than that what am I gonna hit a boss or mob with? <- My fingers? (I actually do btw its and arpg)
    But still for me getting much stronger now is more important than having the ultimate lines at a cost that will make me bankrupt for 7 months
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2018

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