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Discussion in 'General Forum' started by _Baragain_, Jun 1, 2016.

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  1. humunkulus

    humunkulus Forum-Apprentice

    Hello, that HP ring outcome seems unreal, unless you have full magic royals and like +300% overall HP. When making your calculation, didnt you multiple your ring base HP (including gems) by 1,73 instead of 0,73? In case youre correct, can you explain me, how can you get +300% overall HP or what am I missing? :)
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2019
  2. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    You're not wrong. Perhaps I should have said "The HP I'll get from the ring without Runes is 17.8k,"

    At the time, I made the calculation off of 2x Royals and 3x Sacreds (I think), but since then I've upgraded to 3x royals and 2x Sacreds. Runes don't play a part in this calculation.

    Here is the math.


    Without the %HPotI LineWith the %HPotI Line
    Ring Base HP31433143
    HP from Gems14301430
    Total Absolute HP45644564
    % HPotI from Enchantments0%73.008%
    HP gain from %HPotI line+0+3332
    Total HP gain from +136% HP0+7863

    ...Which is still more than the (55856+9360-7863)*0.118=6770 HP I'd get from an 11.8% HP line on an amulet.

    The other advantage is that, as I get higher quality gems, I'll gain even more HP. An Improved Royal gives an extra 143 HP over a Royal. In the ring with %HPotI, and 150% HPotI from runes, that 143 HP becomes 143*3.23*2.36= 1090 HP total. On the other hand, that same gem improvement, even with 150% HPotI from runes, only comes out to 143*2.5*2.478=886 HP total if I'd aimed for an 11.8% HP line on an amulet. It's similar to the difference between %Damage and %DotI because you are picking which modifier gets improved in the calculation, and most of the time, a %XotI will beat a %X.
     
  3. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

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  4. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    is this on ts?
    I bow before u ma man
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2019
  5. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    You know it is... it's a SW weapon. And he only uses a SW on TS.
     
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  6. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    No it is not from TS :p
    It is from live server.
    It is not mine ... my friend Boki crafted it couple of days ago ... he is my pupil :)
    Knowing he is a 1H SW ... I doubt he will ever use it :D
    Me? I can't get a single platinum in months ... with my drop ... If I were after death I would have been immortal :)
     
  7. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Forum Commissioner

    I an _sooooo_ jealous of that legendary staff it makes me sick...

    But not as sick as knowing something so perfect is wasted... :( :( :(

    All my legendaries with plats are contaminated with other than %idoti. :( :( :(
     
  8. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I stand corrected, but you can see why I'd have made the reasonable assumption that is was TheChosenOne's weapon.
     
  9. xisdois

    xisdois Forum-Apprentice

    [​IMG] [​IMG] two belts with 2 platinums
    [​IMG] [​IMG] Two shoulders with 2 yellows

    The result was this

    [​IMG]

    This was a stupid mistake that turns out a amazing mistake...eh eh eh
     
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  10. Dzungla

    Dzungla Padavan

    And six months later ....

    [​IMG]

    Still, worst of six (2 x 3/4) captured (97%), but as someone said, few months ago - finally! :D
     
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  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Just 363%?
    pffff ... melt :p
    Congrats!
    Take a look at Boki's new craft
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. Akageshi

    Akageshi Board Analyst

    Can I be honest?
    I hate all of you who have 4x 100% enchantments.
    As if such result was a result of your skill... It's a stupid RNG in drop and stupid RNG at the workbench.
    If I win at the casino, would you pat me on my back and be like "Oh good job, man, you did really well!"?

    Like... come on :|

    It usually takes a lot of time and boring farm. I give you that. Not everyone can endure that. Perhaps that's the only reason why I should grat you? :/
     
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  13. Dzungla

    Dzungla Padavan

    Thanks

    And for Boki's ones, he doesn't count - he is crafting machine! :D

    btw - I'm sure I know for those two few mins/hours before you :p

    I just have to say that you're sore loser if you think like that!

    Just read first sentence from my last post, and try to grind that much & spend all your free time + ingame gold earned for thousands fails with hair grayed because of it etc .

    About casino - first, you have to go into one, invest some money for chips, play smart and then wait for luck to hit you ...
     
  14. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    I could call you a sore loser, because you spend in game so much time! It means you have no life, have achieved nothing in life, and you're trying to compensate with heavy farming a boring game!

    But does anyone go like that at you...?

    Ask yourself. Is it worth it? It's boring, it's tiring, it's stupid... you're losing your health on it.

    Let me ftfy.

    Like that was a hard thing.

    Ain't hard either. Every n00b can pay... :p:p:p

    Or hard. Or play just one time.

    This is the key part. Luck can strike you on the first try... or it can on the hundredth... or it can after a year of daily countless tries... or it can never strike you. You might spend all the money you had saved on chips... sell you house and all your property... sell both your kidneys... sell your liver... your lungs... your brain... wait. You wouldn't have started selling out your organs if you had one in the first place. :D:D:D

    To say:
    Akageshi is right that people are proud of nothing.
    I won't be getting philosophical now... but what I can say is that I have nothing wrong with people boasting with their crafts. They're happy that they got what they pursued. I get it. The problem is that people get it by farming like masochists, which they do notice:
    ...but nevertheless they start going on the border between slightly offensive speech and straight-out insulting whenever someone points out that there is really no logic in such farming, and not everyone who has farmed that time/amount of runs has got it.
     
  15. Dzungla

    Dzungla Padavan

    Please don't ruin one more topic

    You've, once again, missed the most important part of my/anyone's post
    True, I have a lot of it, but that's an a achievement by itself and that's all info you'll ever get!

    No, It's a challenge!
     
  16. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    This is a show off thread ... its sole purpose is bragging :D
    What are life achievements?
    How much money one has earned? How much one's boss likes them because they never say anything their boss doesn't want to hear? How many hours one has spent working without a break?
    Maybe we should start another conspiracy theory thread ... on how people are being programmed into slaves since their birth.
    There is no luck or random in games.:p
    I could brag about my items as well ... but I don't have them.
    I don't use a single item with platinum enchantments ... because I simply get nothing from drops.
    On contrary ... I get same crappy stats with almost the same values ... so much of the randomness.
    What crafting machine ... you are both hackers! :p
     
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  17. Akageshi

    Akageshi Board Analyst

    Yes, I am.

    And you are king, because you've been more lucky. It kind of resembles genetics.

    I've been collecting platinums since they were first introduced. You think I haven't farmed?
    My friend got a 90% idoti weapon on day 2 from Winter Solstice bear. I got my first such exo 2 months later. He was just much more lucky.

    Thank gods I don't go to casinos, so I don't know how you do things there. But I assume if you play roulette, you can't play smart. You just place a bet and watch it spin.
    And that's what drop and work bench in DSO are about. There's no room for you to do it the smart way to get more desired enchantments transferred.


    It makes me (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

    If I ever get a 4x platinum, I'm gonna post it here and add:

    "The stupid RNG chose me at last. Don't grat me, for the only thing I did was throwing gold in a slot machine."

    Anyway, in order to not wander off topic,
    here's the best craft the game has thrown at me:

    [​IMG]

    I hate how I can't control this. I hate how I use 2 legendary items, each with 2 platinums that took ages to finally transfer from exos, and I only get 3, and the 4th one is just thrown away. If I want to have that transferred too, well that would take another 1500 attempts, I guess. But someone else might get them all 4 on their 3rd try, you know...
    The gold HP is fine, and maybe it's better than 4x crit, idk, it depends... It could have been a block or something else crappy, so ACTUALLY, I should be so happy now. But this is the only platinum legendary craft after 6 months that has more than 2 platinums, and the best about this is that I'm not transferring this on my necklace, because it has 4x gold crit omg. It's like yay I got a 3x platinum crit! And gold HP! Yay let's use that and get some more hp but lose some crit.dmg, like it maybe is an upgrade, but it's meh, and it's even more meh if you realize it's been 6 months.
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2019
  18. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    First of all, the purpose of the sentences you quoted was to mock his attitude and calling people losers for no reason.

    Secondly, if you want to know my personal opinion, none of that would count. And yes, if you want, we can start the thread you mentioned.

    There is no luck or random anywhere. We are using those words however as a shorthand, and you're trying to use a scientific/philosophical meaning.

    We call it luck, if you can't control it.
    If you don't know what it depends on, or you know but you can't control the factor, it is luck when you get what you wanted.

    He talked about "luck strikes", so I used those words in my reply too.

    And now...
    You're the one who keeps misunderstanding posts.

    I haven't said the contrary! I said I could call you loser, but I'm not doing it - unlike you, who does that when somebody thinks you have nothing to brag about really. Before you misunderstand me again, let me ask you a question: am I saying that I think that you have nothing to brag about? You are proud of nothing, but you can brag about what you got nevertheless.
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2019
  19. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Are you ok mate? Could you quote that sentence above where I called someone "loser"?
    That word appear in other people's posts not in mine.
    Also you are going off topic. If you don't like other player's fortune ... simply don't post or read the thread.
    This is a show off thread ... like the other similar threads.
     
  20. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    Welp...
    I thought that it's clear that "calling people losers" applies to "his" = Dzungla's.
     

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