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Dks and their woes in 2019 and a set that will fix it for them

Discussion in 'General Forum' started by Phyrix, Sep 12, 2019.

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  1. DBS-Flamelurker

    DBS-Flamelurker Padavan

    I do not know.
    Can any moderator report to Bigpoint?

    Destruction sucks now, totally useless.
    What's the problem? Destruction has a cd of 60, impossible to spam...
     
  2. Mal3ficent

    Mal3ficent Board Administrator Team Drakensang Online

    Hello @DBS-Flamelurker , report what exactly?
    We cannot see a problem there need to be passed on to development team.
    Game design is not what we do, we let game designers do what they do.
    If there is a bug that we are not aware of, please let us know, we would be glad to pass it on to developers.

    Cheers
     
  3. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    As you can see here
    @DBS-Flamelurker this would make destruction an attack speed based skill
    however if it were to be made frame based the base of it would need to be cut in half minimum.
     
  4. Ворон_Одина

    Ворон_Одина Forum-Apprentice

    The problem is that only DKS in early versions of DSO was an option - +50% more damage two-handed weapon, which was not found in any other class. And this option compensated for the low Smash damage.

    Later this option was given to all classes.

    While the bosses were weak, the difference in killing bosses was not very noticeable (10-20 seconds), but with the release of 220, it became already quite visible and turned into minutes.
    We therefore ask the moderators of the forum to convey the concerns of DKS by its low damage compared to other classes.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2019
  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Minutes? :D
    Try my ranger ... it takes me years with red essences to kill a boss.
    You are omitting the fact that 2Hs couldn't reach high crit and crit damage in the past too. And not to mention faster attack speed than 1Hs.
    It is not a class issue ... it is a equipment issue. They made you all play with 2H and Q7 set and the set is working better with some classes.
    Only making more reliable items and sets ... both 1H and 2H would solve this, because players would have an option to go with whatever they like to do with their build.
     
  6. gfffffgggggfff

    gfffffgggggfff Forum-Apprentice

    How would this solve the imbalance in clear speed in classes? DK is not just a bad class, but all around just very lacking in comparison to other classes and the clear speed potential that they can reach due to overpowered set combinations, buffs, potion spamming and way higher base damage in skills.
    I think you are just salty because bigpoint cares as much for 1h builds as they care for 2h DK's.
    I'm sure everyone will love new sets and having to craft their perfect platinum lines all over again! Don't misjudge me, i actually would love new sets but it's just way less fun in practice then how you are describing it and it would make everything more complicated and even harder to balance!
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2019
  7. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    http://prntscr.com/p6rxc5 im sorry im gonna disrupt this thread but you are forgetting 1 HUGE detail that was literary posted in the video before. Spending 0 resources and feeling comfortable without fearing death is a SUPER huge thing. Which everyone here forgets. Meta was the reason for like 99% of the current class problems+ the fact taht Dk has so much mitigation and self healing abilities.
     
  8. Ворон_Одина

    Ворон_Одина Forum-Apprentice



    Look hier. Mage - 0 potion, 0 buffs.
    Good? Good!
     
  9. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Does he take any hits ? No ? Good ? Good! Does the the DK take any hits ? Yes ? Good? good!


    0 hits taken vs atleast 40 taken
    0vs 0 ? Good? good!

    Dk can be eating while fighting the boss, but as a ranged calss the absolute maximum hits u can take with maxed gear on inf 4 is 2 , most of the time 1. And that is if we dont count arachna s atacks are weaker than ANY other boss"s
     
  10. Ворон_Одина

    Ворон_Одина Forum-Apprentice

    I assume that different classes have the same time to beat bosses.
    DKS-has melee and he should receive damage from boss, otherwise where he accorded rage?
     
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  11. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    2second this exactly what im saying you cant say taht the ranged class isnt using potion because its spamming mana potions/concentration.....................
    A melle class that staying in melle range taking hits and not taking any potions= 0 potions consumed cannot be compared to a ranged class which tries to not get hit. aka evading atacks. Dks dont spam rage potions, instead they get it for FREE. and since they get the rage from free this is equal to the class that is running and evading atacks gaining free resource vs evading!
     
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  12. Ворон_Одина

    Ворон_Одина Forum-Apprentice

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    It didn't matter whether someone dodged a punch or not, it was the time of the murder that mattered. It should be about the same.
     
  13. gfffffgggggfff

    gfffffgggggfff Forum-Apprentice

    as was said in the beginning of this thread.... DK need rage to do damage, without healing how will he even do any damage at all? come on dude the post you made was pointless and your arguments debunked a few posts earlier....
     
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  14. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

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    Someone is being rather selective today
    And his guardian can tank arachna long enough for him to not be a target for the spider
    secondly he is sharing his very own singularity with the spider gaining cooldown and breaking armor.
    so ya zero hits
    thirdly his time is 51 seconds
    not 2 minutes
    you would not even wish dks 1 minute 20 seconds because of all the foaming venomous hate you have for the class
    You decided to botch in here with unreasonable arguments and assumptions
     
  15. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    YOu have skills taht generate u anger, and no nothing was debunked if not it was exactly what i wrote, you can stay in melle range and tank without needing healing potions , while the other classes cant stay in melle , also need to use potions if you take a hit. The dk class play safe and for satisfying effect, being able to spin while speed running smt to full life is smt only a dk can do, otherwise it costs 4 gold.
    One class has safer gampleay but a slightly slower , the other has more dmg yet can be 1shoted

    @Phyrix fourthly this is a poison boss who takes more ice dmg , nice for nitpicking AGAIN,
     
  16. Ворон_Одина

    Ворон_Одина Forum-Apprentice

    On all bosses except Mortis other classes (except dwarf) have advantage in time killings. Easier to fix the Mortis for Mages and Archers than to humiliate thousands of players DKS lack of damage.
     
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  17. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    wdym mortis only ? SIgrismmar ? Heredur ? Khalys ? why are u intentionally missing bosses to prove a point ?????
     
  18. Ворон_Одина

    Ворон_Одина Forum-Apprentice

    Let the game developers do it. We do not have the ability to compare different classes in optimal Set and kraft. For example, Arachne revealed disbalans. He there is and on other bosses.

    [video removed]

    One thing I'd say, when 2 DKS will be able also kill all bosses as these mages (let even'm using bottles on rage), balance will found.
     
    Last edited by moderator: Sep 16, 2019
  19. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    so now we are taking solo classes comparison and using a group comparison ?? hmmm nice so u jsut switched the whole conversation for nitpicking.
     
    Last edited by moderator: Sep 16, 2019
  20. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    yy that video with 2x mages is also nitpicking, astounding how a whole roster of bosses is completed in a total of 6 minutes, 3 of which is spent killing mortis making the other 8 bosses done in 3 minutes total...
    go on show me 2x dks that can do that...
     

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