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Dks and their woes in 2019 and a set that will fix it for them

Discussion in 'General Forum' started by Phyrix, Sep 12, 2019.

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  1. .RakshaRanja.

    .RakshaRanja. Padavan

    I mentioned all of these for a reason and "1s potions" introduced with ON TOP OF THAT.

    It's nearly impossible to talk with you like with a proper adult - you ignore so much stuff just cause it's inconvenient for you.

    Yes, they were "top" before 1s pots - due mana tonic, mana physic and regen pots, all introduced in a single patch. Before that SW was absolutely hot garbage with DKs pumping out more dps than SWs - how the tables have turned :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    Aaand thank you
    Got a sw to admit they are too OP
    Now took a nice little screenshot :D
    Where do you think that goes :D
    So admitedly dks need boost :D
    And this is also proof of what happened to the playerbase so thank you very very much, because admittedly if you kill the apex predator of the game, you kill the game
     
  3. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Idk dude since u hold that one video of all comparison dear sw being second ..2nd on his best boss , apparently is op, anyways there was a suggestion for Dks buff made by rak himself, which u ignore [EDIT]
     
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  4. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    You mean the buff exclusively created with excuses to exclude non q7 dks like me?
    no ulterior motives there I assume.
    All dks need a buff...
     
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  5. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Buffing q7 dks is buffing 90% of dks, the ones that want to play the class to the max. As u know we cant touch base stats as of pvp, because we are strictly speaking of pve. Plus no class has received a q4 buff ever so . Get a seat on the q4 train. im there since 4 years.

    Plus i told you again, Cry for a buff if you are trying your best. Im not trying my best on sw so im not crying for nerfs/buffs. If you dont get this concept straight its not on me
     
  6. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    And yet this goes ignored
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  7. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    its not on us, Im personally for this . I also want q4 on sw to have actually usefull resistance reduction pet---> which im using heredur currently which is split armor and resistance. But i guess we have to wait.
     
  8. .RakshaRanja.

    .RakshaRanja. Padavan

    This is a placebo buff that impacts 0.1% of the game population (conveniently including you).

    If Q4 is fixed so only Q4 wielder is profiting from Smash increase then there's nothing wrong with it.
     
  9. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    I never said do not do the q7 thing
    Am saying do this too, and yes conveniently me too
    EDIT:
    btw has spellweavers tested the increased lightning damage? I mean if dks is not localized who says spellweavers lightning damage is?
     
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  10. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Advanced

    I think it's nice to look at what the German forum Dk's and related statistics are saying:

    http://de.bigpoint.com/drasaonline/board/threads/zeigt-her-eure-dks.14874/page-238

    So one gets a deeper idea of how things are going!

    It is a little sad to read the comments of the users who leave because the BP does not give clear explanations about what it wants to do!

    Honestly I would like to know if the house wants to force the Dk to make 1h tanks and in a special way after the video tests with the 2h cases in which they go alone with the white essences? was this also true in the test server of a couple of past releases?

    Or maybe you're working to balance the loss of class damage and defense! especially with the 2h?
     
  11. DBS-Flamelurker

    DBS-Flamelurker Regular

    SW was the worst pve class before getting buff.
    Precisely for this reason I supported an buff.

    After the buff the classes were balanced, a slight advantage for SM and a slight disadvantage for War.
    Potions 1 cd and mana potions, help each class not just SW.

    What made SW very strong was a change in Singularity, and you know it. Singularity before was ok, now it is simply op.
    The Wizard, not having an OP set like the other classes (Q7 Ranger and Q8 Nano, Q7 DK strong but not op) got buffs on skills. This makes SW the best class, on a skill level. To compete, other classes have an OP set.

    If you want to make Q7 good without making OP SW here is a change:

    Additional bonus Q7: (2) Fireball inflicts + 100% damage. This makes fireball useful in pve.

    ...............................................................................................................................................................>

    For DK, an option: your changes to Smash without any changes to Q7.

    - Smash perks change - 2 pts and 3 pts swapped
    - 6 rage for finishing blow -> 5 rage for critical hit
    - Smash damage gradient removed

    - 250% based on Smash (with talent, 300%).

    - Iron brow: no need impact to get multiple break armor.

    - Wild swing: 300% base dmg (important against boss)

    Healing DK 1% for 10 seconds, instead of 2% for 5, to balance in pvp.

    These changes will make DK better in pve, worse in pvp.
    You can continue to use sets you want... Q4 or Q7.
     
  12. Hiro73

    Hiro73 Advanced

    A small off topic.
    I tested Herold's cloak for DK to check the effect that attracts enemies. It has 2 problems, in inf4 the helper in the banner lasts 1 second and when you are very close to the enemy (a boss), it appears behind you making you suffer damage. A shame. What do developers have against warriors?
    Herold weapon, gloves and cloak should be part of a single set with a new bonus addition.
     
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  13. gfffffgggggfff

    gfffffgggggfff Forum-Apprentice

    Whenever i fight minibosses on my DK i always use combo iron brow-groundbreaker-smash. sadly minibosses these days have an effect that removes armor break from them.
    DK is actually the only class that suffers bad concequences from this effect since we can not kill the miniboss before he immunes himself from the armorbreak... all the other classes don't have this problem. since they have faster armorbreak and damage in their combo, singularity that minibosses can not immune armorbreak from. I ask for groundbreaker and iron brow to become attack speed dependant so DK's with good speed can kill minibosses in the same fast way that other classes can.
     
  14. DBS-Flamelurker

    DBS-Flamelurker Regular

    Fabulous.
     
  15. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    There will be more cloaks ... every boss will have its own cloak.
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    DK's Headbutt is instant.
    It has: damage, Armorbreak, stun, AOE - stuns all enemies in radius of 3 meters, regenerates rage.
    need more? XD
    so what if they would be attack speed dependent? They are not spammable skills
     
  16. gfffffgggggfff

    gfffffgggggfff Forum-Apprentice

    How can you miss the point i am trying to make here so hard. it's no use discussing with you. Anyway more attack speed dependant skills would benefit DK a lot. our combo would be way faster to use, it would not be so clunky as it is now. I think it's also a lot more fun when more skills are speed dependant would'nt it be?
     
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  17. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    Changing the frames of the skills would be minute, if they are cooldown based.
    The huge difference would be if the skills had no cooldown
    Yeah about that.
    Making skills cooldown free and attack speed dependant is wow, but it will have lots of implications for classes.
    Did you stop playing or something?
    Firstly bm used to be best option for mages because it allows for 4/4 witch seeker parts which gives more mana.
    Secondly the bm weapon allowed for speed breakpoints, however this has changed
    Firstly the jewels give more mana now so 4/4 witch seeker is not needed, 2. cloaks can be crafted with 24% speed now gold lines and 30% speed plat lines.
    So now q4 is stronger for mages and well q7 too as it allows for 150% damage and the 3.63 break point for 20 frame skills
    but q7 also allows for fb spam even if it comes in at 204% base as a 20 frame skill its still pretty potent. <- combined with herald cloak ofc
     
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  18. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Active Author

    I think the war in this video haven't nothing less than a mage.
    Maybe some war can be learn from him ;)
     
  19. gfffffgggggfff

    gfffffgggggfff Forum-Apprentice

    Lol, on a map where you skip all the mobs and even then the wars clear speed would be drastically lower. by the way why are mages the only class that get acces to a -28% resist pet?
     
  20. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    His kill time is 3 minutes or to be more exact 2:55 minutes <- what is to learn is that its very very slow by the standards of other classes...
     

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