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Feedback Dragan Event - June 2016

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  1. wangwang

    wangwang Active Author

    10 painful dragan 2 excuiating dragan = 1 head,nice job
    AND 1min changing map is just a bonus
     
  2. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Are the devs playing the game at all???
    I don't think so ... because they would have know you can't chose what chest to open.
    First quest line = first chest
    Second quest line = second chest
    Third quest line = third chest.
     
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  3. Domrani

    Domrani Forum-Apprentice

    Guys DSO management never listen to us players. they do everything we dont want them to do. all we want is to keep play and keep it fun interesting and challenging. they make it boring, grinder, no brainer.

    I have been playing DSO since 2013, i have put loads of money in to it. and all i get in return is these pathetic grinding events and bad decisions been made constantly by the team, and worse of all i hardly have any friends left in game.

    You know what. if i didnt pay i would'nt say anything. but i feel that im totally earned they right to do so. and i also earned the right to be listened to and be taken seriously. after all im paying your godam salaries.

    This is last time im gonna put up with this. and no im not gonna quit as i have invested in this game too much of my real money.
    you dont respect us or listen we move all they way up (Khaled Helioui) and we gonna make some real noise.
     
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  4. taketh

    taketh Regular

    Can dragan in painful mode (requires a red pearl, lvl 30 min) drop 1000 drakens? It regularly drops 25. I picked up 50 drakens but havent done many runs.
     
  5. tassadar1977

    tassadar1977 Forum Expert

    I now cant enter some maps. went into m1, waited 30s till I showed up then got redirected to forum page?? thought right try that again, reloaded game, started appearing in m1 map, waited over 30s again then redirected once more. thought ffs ive spent my 30 pearls I want into this map, reloaded again, appeared back in town. time to give up
     
  6. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Everyone keeps saying "Fatal" but there is no Fatal mode. Just Excruciating. A Fatal version of these bosses would be near impossible.
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    PUT
    THE
    DAMN
    DROP
    RATE
    OF
    UNIQUES
    BACK
    TO 1/1
    AT LEAST IN PAINFUL AND EXCRUCIATING
    SERIOUSLY

    please :) :)
     
  8. dimoalexis7

    dimoalexis7 Advanced

    You are right. But still , the drop is absolutely unacceptable for the time and stuff we spend.
     
  9. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    But way better than the green and blue stuff they were giving us in the first version of test server.
     
  10. MANOJ

    MANOJ Forum Pro

    10 Excruciating Dragan kills and only 1 unique drop. No surprise as I was expecting it.
    And, none of the other items that dropped in there have a single gold stat line. I saw many items with gold lines in Castle but not on the ones dropped by Dragan :confused:

    And anybody have found any weapon parts at all? except the one from Gloomy map?
    I need to decide my time on either the weapon or the rageful set.
     
  11. EhtovK

    EhtovK Old Hand

    Indeed, but that doesn't make it more acceptable for mortals like me, who actually have to invest red essences, potions, spirit stones and extra time if I want to run excruciating.

    The problem is, I'm getting excruciating PW-like items quality and quantity wise, at three times the cost of resources than in the excruciating PW, with hilariously low chances of unique drops, and take in account my SW and my couple's DK can decently handle everything but Khalys fatal as a duo.

    Now imagine the situation for less developed but still average players, this event represents nothing but frustration for them, to say the least, I'm sure my stubbornness is gonna get me somewhere with the event, but that's because I prepared loads of resources in advance, for months, which I'm seriously considering would be better invested elsewhere.

    -------

    On a side note, the developers are losing the ground, last Dragan event our toons were able to get palpable improvements, but with the mechanics they're introducing lately, let's try to make the calculation for how much time it would take to craft a tier 3 Dragan's ring, for example: One needs 16 tier 1 rings in total, let's say you managed to get the tier 2 one during the last event (not my case, I was too weak), you still need 12 more tier 1 rings, at a rate of 3 Dragan events a year with 2 rings as progress bar rewards, you'll be able to craft one tier 3 ring by 2018, yay!

    Previously we were given the oportunity to work hard for a month and get a nice set, now you gotta work hard for 2 weeks, 3 times a year, and pray to Agathon for you to be lucky enough to complete one of the sets, because working on both at the same time is a terrible idea, all that without seeing any significant improvement in your character despite all the time, resources, and in some cases, money invested, yay again!, it's like the Defender's set, average to some, useless to most, yet at the speed of the iterations one will take around 1.5 years to see the 5 pieces together.

    Long story short, the goals are turning unrealistic, I always wondered why Trakilaki complained about almost all uniques being useless, since some of them would actually help me, but now I see, at the rate you get those sets, you'll already have a way better legendary item, either by farming or crafting -0.002, and that's saying quite much, considering how merciless the PRNG are in this game.

    And to put the frosting, aside from bad planning, the bugs are tearing the game apart, but Agathon forbids anyone at the office loses their weekend over this, better let the players lose theirs, despite some of them being paid subscribers. Long loading screens, empty chests, misplaced tags on reward chests from the event's daily quest, anyway, I'll be back...

    Edit to add..., if you think putting sets on Gnob to be sold for Draken, that's also not very helpful, in all the time I've been here (10-11 months), I started getting as many drakens as I humanly could from all the events in all this time and, taking in account the ones I already spent, I would have around 15-16k, not even enough for a full warlord set, and consider that the fact that I was able to get some of those Drakens is because I improved a lot via the Warlord set itself, so the average player might be able to collect half of those, and your pricing for a full Warlord Set (19200 Draken total, if my memory serves me well), make it a too long term goal, saving enough might take 1.5 to 2 years for some, when before, there was the chance to get it at least twice a year, or at least half of it per iteration, given enough time, planning and effort.

    Also, if you're planning to get any set with Drakens, you basically give up on any other for another year+ (Armor of Darkness: 12700 drakens, Dragonsilver: 13000, Warlord: 19200). That's unless you have enough knowledge about the game and happen to know which loose pieces of each set would sinergize with your equipment to reach your goals, which the new players do not know, at all. And we all know a lot of these items don't even turn your character into a high-end-like one just by themselves...

    So, with this mechanic, getting any set at all became a too damn long term goal, while you'll be struggling with your luck to be half-decently equipped to keep sorting the buffs the mobs get and the nerfs the player get, and the "new" "challenges" the game brings.
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2016
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  12. RichMan

    RichMan Active Author

    First mini event- played on all dificulties and the 3 bars once you tap the gate to enter the mini event and choosing the dificulti they are in a wrong order. Inside the map the fire from the cannons is dealing way to much damage from a 2k hit on normal to a blasting 6k on hard. Once you reach profesor julov in the middle of the map he is quite easy on normal mode but very very hard on hard mode so i changed to my tank build and got a team with me from the guild. The drop rate of the bar progress is good in every dificulty and the entrance fee is acceptable. The progress bar gives nothing good so a new player wont do the mini event unlees he wants the ring but i dont think that would happen. And again lower the dificulty because the mini has 0 fun if you dont have premium and some good speed boots to dodge the fireballs. A good way to do it was to exit the mini, do one round of the castle revencaw for some pearls and then go back inside the mini. That way i started with 2.5k pearls and have 2k remaining after the mini.
     
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  13. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I agree... Harder than Fatal PWs even though it is supposedly only Excruciating.
     
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  14. RichMan

    RichMan Active Author

    Thats exactly the reason i changed to tank. Having all the hits from the fireballs and from julov its too much for my DK. And for sure even for you it might be imposible with all that poison and fireballs.
     
  15. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I was running around like a little girl when I was trying to take on Jullov and did most of my killing when Dragon Hide cooled down. I might have been able to do it stationary with reds, but there was no way I'd waste reds on something like this.
     
  16. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    We found a way to kill Jullov no sweat with friends.
    When you hit Jullov from a great distance, he doesn't react.
    It's up to you to guess what to do ;)
     
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  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Damn it man ... you have to tell everything at forums :(
    That was the case with the Ghastly Grave spider ... but they fixed it in last moment ... and left the Black Screen of Death.
    Of course whenever there is a bug that is in players favor it they fix it immediately ... but not those bugs that are giving us hard time.
    BTW ... bookmark this post ... i will reveal another bug but not now ... next week :p
     
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  18. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    Sorry, I can't see players in difficulty and have no reaction :D And I can't tell them in-game, I'm not on the same server.
    I'm waiting for you. :p
     
  19. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    That's all well and good for you ranged folks, but DKs need to do it the hard way.
     
  20. Alaniaris_gatos

    Alaniaris_gatos Forum-Greenhorn

    I play drakensang approximately four years and I am very disappointed because one of my characters level 27 can not take part in this mini event.
    It is the first time that something like this happens.
    But I wonder if the exclusion of players level 15 to 29 were a conscious choice or concerns an oversight or mistake.

    The reason I say that is the following

    1) The preview of mini event that appears in the event's menu, it is normally displayed for a player below the level 30, and there is no mention that you can participate only if you are level 30+. Besides this, the dragan ring displays the statistics on the level of the player, be either 15 level, 20 or more.

    2) On the gate of mini event there are three modes of difficulty and the normal mode refers to players level 15+. So it seems to be prepared for the participation of all players, for all those who are entitled to participate in main event.

    3) The general philosophy of the company as it appears for example in the parallel world or for example in this dragan event is the low-level players even with a bigger effort to be able to obtain the equipment of events.

    Considering all the above I conclude that either has become a mistake and the players 15 to 29 would normally take part in mini event, and so the gate leading to the castle difficult had to be open for all,
    either it was really a conscious decision of the company to exclude these players (something that happens for the first time and without warning) and happened unprofessional with errors, see 1 and 2.

    From my experience so far I consider more likely to be the first scenario.
    In this case please take care of this matter and resolve it as soon as possible
    in order players with level less than 30 to be able to participate in mini events as every player I think deserves.

    In the case that was indeed a conscious choice of the company,
    please inform us responsibly for what are the BP intentions and decisions about the low level players(up to 29) so these players to be aware and decide how to spend their time and money.

    Thank you.
     

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