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Suggestion Drakens and event uniques

Discussion in 'Creative Corner' started by ΣMiwel, Jan 25, 2019.

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Would you like these suggestions to come live?

  1. Yes to Draken drops and increased unique drop rate!

    3 vote(s)
    9.4%
  2. Yes to Drak's quests and increased unique drop rate!

    3 vote(s)
    9.4%
  3. Yes to all!

    18 vote(s)
    56.3%
  4. Yes to Draken drops only!

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  5. Yes to Drak's quests only!

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  6. Yes to Drakens and Drak! No to the increased unique drop rate!

    3 vote(s)
    9.4%
  7. Yes to increased unique drop rate only!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. No to all!

    1 vote(s)
    3.1%
  1. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    My suggestion is simple. Make drakens drop from monsters in event maps (stacks of 1, +1 for every mode). Make them drop from all the event bosses, too, yet at higher stacks (20, 50, 100, +20 for every mode).

    Or simply bring back Drak with some repeatable trading quests of some specific artifacts for draken, just the numbers given would have to make sense. Then they could add an option to trade him unwanted event uniques for drakens.

    Thirdly, the unique item drop rate in event maps was higher for a reason. It was very limited how many times you could kill an event boss, which was also available only for a short period of time for which the event lasted. Therefore, I suggest to increase the said drop rate again.
     
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  2. IKILLGIANTS

    IKILLGIANTS Active Author

    draken cores are a problem at the moment,we need a improvement in the way we obtain it,i would agree even for a real money purchase in the shop so that everybody can be happy,the ones who have time to grind and the ones who dont
     
  3. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    I can see where you are coming from here but... to me, the real problem is the lack of events. I mean heck, other than moons and seasonal we have not had an event now for what? six/seven months? (note: I do not consider xp buff, drops rate, et.al. events actual events. Those are more like they devs saying, "we could not get a real event in this month" :rolleyes:)

    So, in reality, the perspective here is skewed because it is based only on Solstice and Moons since 214.

    btw, I did not vote since there was no, "not sure/don't know" option.
     
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  4. Akageshi

    Akageshi Board Analyst

    Definitely yes to all.

    Yes, drakens should drop in small amounts from random event monsters.

    Yes, there should be more event quests for drakens.

    Yes, an option to sell event items for drakens would be nice and would make sense.
    I imagine you manage to get for example 2 Gwenfara's bows, so you could sell one for drakens... Not sure for how many, though.
    Same goes for other event items, like pet parts in Defeat the Undefeatables, flames of phoenix, insignias od Scald, and so on.

    Yes, event uniques should drop more. Definitely more than in the last Full Moon / New Moon :D
     
  5. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Ambassador

    unique event drops should be drastically higher than they are now

    It's completely retarded that they nuked the drops

    I'm in favour of more proposals that increase draken availability, draken drops from bosses should come back as they used to in the past, there should a chance to drop a jackpot of 1000 drakens
     
  6. Bundin

    Bundin Forum-Apprentice

    There is a lot of Problem with Events they changed the Event Drops like in PW but befor R214 in PW was the drop much better then yet it is. And ist really a silly Thing set the same Chance for an Event like in PW because in PW you can go in any time. But in Event you cant go in any time, ther you Need always to enter a Pearl, a blood.... so the Events cant be have the same droprate like a PW, because has a limited time and entering possibility.....
    The another Thing the draken core this cores we can farm only on Events and yet you can get from Event bosses another core type too, and ist not funny, you can get enough Draken core for your crafts because you get less Draken cores like befor R214. Thats Need a big change
     
  7. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    The idea of more drakens is fine, but without an increase in draken cores, it is rather pointless.

    The entire effort to reward system needs to be tweaked. If they want me to play an event beyond the progress line, give me some reason to do so.

    Mind numbing grind with zero hope of reward doesn't inspire me to play let alone whip out the credit card to buy things.
     
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  8. Akageshi

    Akageshi Board Analyst

    I once read about this idea on a different forum, that we could sort of restart the event progress bar once we've filled it. It would start from zero again giving us the opportunity to get the rewards again, only this time we would have to collect twice (or more) the amount of progress points.

    It would be a pretty lazy way how to make events playable for a longer time, but it'd be at least something.
    There are long events, after all, that people finish within 1 or 2 days...
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2019
  9. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    That's a bad idea. Whole point is for people to get more drakens, not other things that exist in event progress bars. The only that could profit from this would be the gangbangers and bots. They would lower the items in the progress bar if they added such a thing and we all would lose.

    The only way of expanding the progress I could see would be converting all the progress collected above the bar to drakens at some specific rate depending on the exact event.
    As I suggested somewhere else... when we're going to event boss, we should have 100% chance of getting draken cores and one random from the method specific cores. When we're going PW boss, it should be 100% of materia cores + one random from the method specific cores. When we're going to SND boss, it should be 100% of tellurian cores + one random of the method cores.

    Also we should get more opportunities to get the draken cores (=more events... but please, add some variety, not repeat moon events twice a month or such like you did last november).

    So we need new events and some expansions to the event system (especially more ways of getting drakens).
     
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  10. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    yup
    yup
    yup

    Everytime I dont drop draken cores my heart sinks a little
    It eats away at my hopes of being able to upgrade or craft an item.


    ADDED:
    an event level system would be nice, let me explain
    You finish for example full moon, after finishing the event you can do the event level 1
    That would mean that your event progress is zero on event level 1
    Thus you get rewarded more and more for completing the event everytime
    The levels gives better rewards but the progress is much higher
    example for a player to complete the event a second time full moon for example they would need 11200 progress
    after completing level 0 and level 1 event the level 2 would once again double
    meaning a player would require 22400 progress to complete the level 2 event.
     
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2019
  11. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    Have you even read my previous post? Unlimited or close to unlimited progress bars would benefit mostly the bots and gangbangers. Imagine Big Game Hunt with such a feature. On top of that, they would lower the rewards from progress bars and we would all lose... or are you a bot/gangbanger that you cry for that stupid thing so much?

    Be careful what you wish for... because you might just get it.
     
  12. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Duke

    so by doubling prerequisites for lvl 1 and 2 they will nerf lvl 0?
    anyways regarding big game hunt it was only hard for me in Nov of 2017 (I had to keep my buff ongoing for 3 days to finish the event)
    The second big game hunt I did in 7 hours
    If there is a another big game hunt well now we can do infernal 3 (maybe even infernal 4 by that time)
    Now realistically
    The last big game hunt you needed about 800 keys to finish the event, now even if you need twice that much now you can still still do it in a more than reasonable time
    Lets talk about full moon
    2 x infernal 4 runs and full moon is complete
    wow
    2 runs?
    yup 2 runs
    Must be a bot user to spend 1 hour or less to finish an event like full moon...
    Oh no wait... waaait...
    You need to be a gang banger to do that

    Edit: okay talked to soul he confirmed 3 runs not 2 but still
    its like I said to him we got to target long before we got to the bloodmage on the 3rd round
     
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2019
  13. Akageshi

    Akageshi Board Analyst

    Yeah it was just someone else's idea I read. I admit I haven't thought about botters being able to abuse it :/

    That wouldn't be bad, but the same botter problem persists.

    I'd like to go back to the quest idea. Events might be prolonged by adding those, maybe randomized, so each day or so a different event-related quest would pop up.
    Quests in Castle Ravencaw are almost like that, but they are not randomly appearing, if I remember well.
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2019
  14. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Baron

    Progress is what it is so that everyone can do it, not just those who are running Inf4.

    First, think about all those who cannot run Inf4. Those who are still levelling and those who have reached the cap level, but still are too weak for infernals.

    Why is the majority supposed to lose because some part of high-end minority that is already close-to or completly maxed out wants to be able to get even more. If you have finished the progress, go do something else. If you have nothing better to do, go eat some sorrel leafs or something. Or, I have an idea for you. The next time the event is active, create a new character, preferably spellweaver or ranger (but anything would do), level up to 20lvl, which has max painful mode, without help of your friends or PW... and go finish the event as fast as you are talking about. New experiences will give you opportunity to look from a new viewpoint on the whole thing.

    Then, think they would lower the rewards by alot. You will have to finish at least 5 such progress to get the same rewards as you're getting now. Then think whether it would be possible to get those rewards for your new (discussed above) toon.

    Event is an event. A timewise and rewardwise limited thing. If it lasted indefinetly in one of the aspects, it would be no longer an event, but rather an expansion of the universe...
     
  15. Yammi

    Yammi Forum-Apprentice

    Yes, the drop rate from draken core is very bad now.
    I like so much your idea :D

    The new core drop system is pretty bad. Usually we have 2 events monthly that drop draken core, which already makes the farme limited. The old system was much more fair, we knew that the core was guaranteed at the end of the boss. In the last event I killed 12x the bloodmage, being that droped only 5x drakens core. I would like the system to be set to drop 100% again.

    My idea for a just drop:

    Events boss: Only draken core;
    World boss: Tellurian core or augment core;
    Parallel boss: Materia core or augment core (Except mortis);
    Mortis: Only soul core;
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2019
  16. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    The solution is very simple.
    Defeat the Undefeatables is the solution. They only need to remove the silly restriction on those ports and put them in Thabo's shop.
    Whenever a player wants to make themselves an event ... they can play the Circus .
    Why should players be restricted to make their own event and playing it only when the event is active ... when they can play it whenever they are bored with the game. There are times when one doesn't feel like playing PW, Normal maps or moon farming maps.
    All those bosses are Event Bosses (since they are included in an actual event) ... therefore they should all drop Draken Core.
    The drop would be random so they can drop all kind of cores ... including Draken Core.
    Drakens would be included in the chest drop as usual.

    Problem solved for all ...
    No need to buy thousands of portals anymore ... as everyone would be able to buy portals whenever they want.
    The Event will only offer (when active) progress and rewards from the progress bar.
     
  17. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    What an excellent suggestion!
    It makes total sense. Why the restriction?


    Also, about the original suggestion. I voted Yes to all.
     
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  18. Akageshi

    Akageshi Board Analyst

    The restriction has been applied for a reason. The reason is obvious: Easy draken farm.

    Circus Monstrorum is an event map. If they lift the restriction, be prepared the drop outside event season will be different. Maybe no drakens, maybe no capes, pet parts etc. Those are items bound to the event, after all.
    Everyone has to admit the practice of purchasing 10000 tickets to farm drakens anytime, was kind of ridiculous.

    ΣMiwel's original suggestion is much better. Just add draken cores to it as well. Small stacks of drakens and draken cores can drop from event leader monsters + amphorae, large stacks from event bosses, and you can get both for event related questing.
     
  19. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Ambassador

    traki's proposal is rational, rationality is beyond the grasp of BP
     
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  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Absolutely not true.
    The devs have encouraged players to buy portals and farm the Circus with a public announcement.
    The reason being ... applying the new mechanics.
    Ridiculous for whom? Players who didn't buy any? There is your chance ... you would buy them whenever you like.
    No cloaks? Like someone is using that cloak anyway?
    Like you can't get draken in moon maps during daylight ?
    Pet parts ... like they are game breaking items when you can buy those pets on sale or via Daily Deal. Besides they will introduce this silly feature "Pet Melting" (because no one was asking for it ... usual BP mentality or should I say cop mentality) so it will get along with the feature quite nice.
    The drops can be regulated quite easily ... it is a piece of cake even for a noob programmer.
    No offense ... but that is what I call people without vision.
    What I suggested is best both for the players and the devs.
    The players would get what they want ... and the devs wouldn't have to make new event (and screw it like they usually do) so they will have more time to focus on those things they are working on or planning.
    This game doesn't need preaching ... it needs players. Not next month , not tomorrow ... but NOW!
     
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