Low level PVP

Discussion in 'PvP (Player vs. Player)' started by warrax111, May 18, 2017.

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  1. warrax111

    warrax111 Forum-Greenhorn

    Well, I think, you completly destroyed PvP, and particulary, at low levels till lvl 25.

    As I said in my previous post, I am returning player from 2011-2012 era, and PvP was much more fun in that time.

    What's the problem? Ok, right now, some warrior named Ladyenergy at level 15, jumped at me (I am level 17), and hit me for 1400 damage. Of course, one hit me to death. In other round of duel, he(she) jumped at me, and hit me for 700 damage. That I survived as I have 900 health, but then he smashed me for 3300 damage.
    As I count, as I have almsot 50% damage reduction, that he need to have base damage around 1500. At level 15.

    Ok, so before, it was no possible, I think, to reach 200, or 250 was maximum on level 15. It was much better. I see main problem, and that is, that you can level your equipment above your level. He just pay, or farm for 3 months, and these payers/no-lifers, are completly destroying fun in arena. I am playing about 3 weeks, and have 200 base damage, 900 health, 50% reduction, and 1,34 attack speed, and such person is basicaly one-hiting me. I think, that you should not allow to level weapons and shields, more than 10 levels above your level.
    Please fix this, as I am disgusting to continue, I think, many players had leaved because of this.

    There is no sense to allow leveling equipment above your level... imagine level 6 character, with level 50 equipment... what's the point? Only to ruin fun in arena. Some of these no-lifers are doing it again and again... so when their low level characters level high enough, they are preparing new one...

    I disagree, that level 15 character can strike for 700-1500 , or 3300 damage with smash, such non-sense didnt existed before in DSO, at it was much better. And if you don't agree, ask players from 2011-2012 era, and ask them about 3v3 on low levels, many of them quit, becuase you disbalanced it with this allowing leveling equipment above your level.

    My suggestion is:
    normal pieces of armor can go maximally 5 above your level
    amulets and ring can go 6 above your level.
    shield can go 5 above your level
    and weapon can go 10 above your level.

    After you upgrade it above these limits, also requirement level will raise. So for example, if you have amulet with level 10, you can upgrade it to level 16. After you level it to 17, also required level for an item will raise to 11. So level 10 cannot use it anymore.

    The other limitation should be on gems.
    Higher gems, should be used only on high level characters.
    I don't see a point, when someone pay and buy +30 damage red gems, and put 5 of these into the weapon on level 10. For example sacred gem should have level requirement of 20. etc...

    This is , when PvP would be more about your actual skill and pvp rank (which mean, you already played a lots of matches, so you are stronger, that's ok), as it was in 2011-2012 era.
     
  2. BigHink

    BigHink Advanced

    I do not PvP except for clovers so I really don't care about twinks but it is very easy to fix everything you talked about by eleiminating XP blocking.

    I disagree with the gem part though. If someone wants to spend hundreds of $'s on gems just to make them feel strong because they have no skills that is great. They are the one that keep the game going If everyone was a Free-to-play we would have no game.
     
  3. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Board Veteran

    You are describig issue of twinks. They destroyed low level PvP for casual players, but BP doesn't care and promotes it. They officially said they are not going to address it.

    But wait until you reach lvl55. You will be dealing with mages with 100k+ destructions no one can survive, or archers hitting 60k without an actual hit, when the bullet explodes on the ground. Suicide tanks will add to the mix so would the dwarfs with multiple turrets you cannot avoid.

    Welcome back :)
     
  4. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Count Count

    This topic has been beat to death many times and DSO has ignored every suggestion possible. You aren't the first to offer these solutions and won't be the last.

    The reason DSO permits/supports twinks is commonsense, they are the heavy payers.

    If pvp is the type of game you like, there are three choices.

    1.Level up to max and get good gear (yes it will take forever).

    2.Become a heavy paying twink (whip out the old credit card and go crazy).

    3. Find a different game (DSO is not going to discourage the heavy spenders).
     
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  5. smurfaki

    smurfaki Forum-Apprentice

    I would agree with Rhysingstar, think that a pay-to-play player can pay a huge amount of money and he/she (because this game also played by girls too ;)) still will never be complete in one character, I know it's not fair to casual players (free-to-play) but the BP earn a huge amount from those players and support our servers, I rather say that a new feature should be implemented in pvp and work with our combat value, those who have more or less than 1000 cv difference should play with a player similar to his/her cv and that's will be truly fair to all of us, right? :p
     
  6. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Duke

    o_O CV? :confused:
    *facepalm*
     
  7. smurfaki

    smurfaki Forum-Apprentice

    Combat Value. :rolleyes:
     
  8. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Duke

    I know what that is...
    But that's like saying to match people after their number of hair strands.:rolleyes:
     
  9. smurfaki

    smurfaki Forum-Apprentice

    Yep what i really ment (didn't mention it before) is that this one should be scaled by the level. ;)
     
  10. warrax111

    warrax111 Forum-Greenhorn

    So, you're basicaly telling me, that to do 3500-7000 damage at level 10, is all right? Just to screw people's fun, and one-hit everybody. They do it again and again in 3v3. Some of them are not paying... they are just preparing their character for 2 months... and then do it again and again... (when their low level char is high enough, they are preparing another one... it is their style of play, to be best in low level 3v3, one-shooting everyone)

    The ranger doing 3500 damage per shot, didnt even bother to mark anybody. He just use precise shot to one-shot everybody. They also steal all points in 3v3 from their team members, as it is damage oriented, they get 9:0 score, and get 95% of all honor points for the match.

    This is like 50% of all games 3v3 at low-level, I'm already playing it several months, there are new and new twinks level 10, freshly made, again and again, destroying fun in 50% of matches.
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2017
  11. jarans2

    jarans2 Forum-Apprentice

    I understand you totaly but you need to understand players who do it. Everyone can invest theyre time to make a character like that. i am lvl 17 atm and have 1.1k dmg base. I dont use it alot for pvp but its reachable for every single player casher faster afcourse.
     

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