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  1. G4xior

    G4xior Forum-Greenhorn

    What are you talking about mate ? This is the best arguements why they are angry. BSC people plays many hours for beeing strong and powerfull ( crafting , farming , paying too ) and win in pvp. Now - in one moment they will be on same lvl like people who just starting xd If for you its not good argument then i dont know what can be xd
     
  2. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    but screaming about leaving the game for good and then returning isn't an argument to boost your credibility
    [/QUOTE]
    You are mistaken, i have not return to game and i never will if they will not stop this pay to win marketing= like never.I have quit when my forum was shut down me and my entire guild.

    I was in both sides, i have done pvp at low lev and i have never catch the elders :). the point is that they can make the sapphires unusable that is all, they don't need to force you to refine them.I know that i own just the right to have some stats that i have bought and no one should force me to do something with them no one can erase them , maybe i like how it looks in my weapon is my fetish and i have pay for that.Is just how they put the problem, there are many bot users and cheaters in this game and they have much more power than few sapphires they should deal with them if they want to erase unfair advantages.
    BP has enjoy money from sapphires, from jesters, from so many bad decision and we pay for that mistakes that changes that is the problem- they should pay because they have took the money, they should find better solutions not to force us do something to repair any of the mistakes they made.
    For me is no a problem about new and old players - i also consider that between new and old should be only some minor differences like rare - titles, ranks achievements, pets, costumes and so one, not so big difference in strength or power because that discourage new players.Is simple they can give players a special costume for every year in dso and they will enjoy , they have special mounts from arena , that is special for old players but they should not nerf the old players they should give the possibility to new players to become equally strong.
     
  3. IKILLGIANTS

    IKILLGIANTS Active Author

    You are mistaken, i have not return to game and i never will if they will not stop this pay to win marketing= like never.I have quit when my forum was shut down me and my entire guild.



    I was in both sides, i have done pvp at low lev and i have never catch the elders :). the point is that they can make the sapphires unusable that is all, they don't need to force you to refine them.I know that i own just the right to have some stats that i have bought and no one should force me to do something with them no one can erase them , maybe i like how it looks in my weapon is my fetish and i have pay for that.Is just how they put the problem, there are many bot users and cheaters in this game and they have much more power than few sapphires they should deal with them if they want to erase unfair advantages.
    BP has enjoy money from sapphires, from jesters, from so many bad decision and we pay for that mistakes that changes that is the problem- they should pay because they have took the money, they should find better solutions not to force us do something to repair any of the mistakes they made.
    For me is no a problem about new and old players - i also consider that between new and old should be only some minor differences like rare - titles, ranks achievements, pets, costumes and so one, not so big difference in strength or power because that discourage new players.Is simple they can give players a special costume for every year in dso and they will enjoy , they have special mounts from arena , that is special for old players but they should not nerf the old players they should give the possibility to new players to become equally strong.[/QUOTE]


    dude my point is that you give false feedback,thats the problem,you say youre gonna quit and then here u are writing novels,people like you say that if something happens they will quit,or they wont buy premium or they wont buy ingame stuff but they lie and devs see the numbers,beeing fake wont solve problems you know?
     
  4. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    I have quit the game on 12 april this year , is so hard for you to understand?
    Here is my reason, i consider that a game that shut down forums is about to die.
    http://www.bigpoint.com/drasaonline/board/threads/closing-forums.75362/

    You are trolling me or what?You dont like to read? You want to piss me off or what?
    How can you say to me that i,m fake? my last payment was on.
    Date 20.03.2018No 12334614618.500 andermant
    I have acces my account just 3 -4 times since then just few minutes every time.
    I have get survey from dso - Why did you stop playing Drakensang Online? Dear ...on 6 october and 6 june.
    I have delete my payments from DSO on 9 april.
    If anyone can check this and confirm, maybe this player will ask apologise for his words.

    Not all of us are kids and liars.Please respect the rules:
    Minor Violations:
    • General harassment
    • Defaming another player

      Thank you.
     
  5. Mal3ficent

    Mal3ficent Board Administrator Team Drakensang Online

  6. Fugnuts

    Fugnuts Forum Master

    Imo the new updates are cool, especially the pvp ones.PvP should be player vs player, not visa vs player, not time spent vs player, not luck vs player , not craft vs player, not gems vs player, not glyphs vs player but player vs player ..skill vs skill and these new changes try to make that happen or at least thats how i see it.

    Regarding the removal of jesters it was about time that happened.The changes in the policy of gambling online are starting to get more strict in order to prevent addiction and those under 18 playing...makes sense to remove the jesters since kids can play with ander or spend money on them which is also prohibited in real life when it comes to gambling when under 18.

    The updates look nice imo except them conversion rates when it comes to jewels (normal to qaizah and runes)...since some of us payed a lot of have them converted and now they wanna convert them for free for all.Id suggest everyone who has qaizah gems receive the difference in ander for each gem...for example if one has 1x qaizah royal ruby which costs 680.400ander and one has 1x normal royal ruby which costs 486.000 ander, then the one with the qaizah ruby should receive 194400 ander for each ruby/onyx and so on for the rest of gems in order to make things fair for all.

    Regarding crafting all items again since they will have better stats now...well thats sucks lol...its forces everyone to start crafting again and continue the endless cycle...farm..craft...farm...craft...which imo is the main reason why this game is dead.The grinding should stop and u guys from the dev team should have better ways to entertain the players than force them to farm 24/7.Look at what epic games is doing..copy them, learn from them, worship them.

    I also like the fact that DSO wants to make the game a tad more easier by removing most type of cores and keeping it simple...2 cores to craft along with soul, augument and pristine...this is a +1 for me, however adding 100 new types of ingredients for new recipes/crafting/upgrading after stating that u want to make the game easier makes u guys look like idgets lol.Youve realised that having 2 types of cores max is good and makes everything peachy but u wanna add 100 types of new ingredients after saying that? *** lol...

    Anyways..looking forward to see the new updates making it on the live servers.Cheers.

     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018
  7. Yogo

    Yogo Forum Great Master

    Do you happen to be working for BP? :)


    Why wouldn't we have them Jesters left in game and bet with gold only?


    Many are not really looking forward to it... the poll created in Wiki regarding PvP and general feedback isn't too optimistic so far. Let's see what the future brings.
     
  8. I like how you don't mind a lot of players getting screwed by PvP update because you didn't invest as much as them into it but when it comes to the conversion of gems, you feel the need to be compensated. That's so selfish lmao... "give players andermants" as compensation... lmao are you kidding me? How is that fair, i'd much rather they not convert the gems in this case...

    Good luck with your skills against Dwarf's in arena btw :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018
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  9. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Ambassador

    well, but how did players get screwed with the jesters? They played them and got whatever the jesters gave them

    It's not like they invested anything in them

    If they suddenly decided to remove gems from the game and take them away from players,then you could make that argument

    My problem is that they should have removed andermant gambling and should have left gold gambling, since it's a virtual currency
    I'm glad that they at least removed the lucky spheres
     
  10. My point being, he doesn't care about an update that won't affect him but he's salty over the gem conversion update.

    I will edit out "jesters" just to make it clear.
     
  11. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    to be honest i like the update ( im ignoring pvp changes) but overall they are making the game more interesting i a sense it costs more resource but also gives more
     
  12. Fugnuts

    Fugnuts Forum Master

    The only players who consider themselves being screwed are the ones without much skill imo...sure we can argue and many wont agree but pvp stands for player vs player and nothing else.Compare DSO with Fort...e for instance...4k ppl at most in dso vs millions in the other game...or with P,,G...people does not like to spend years to be competitive...In Fort...e for instance u can start today and be the first at the end of the round while in DSO if u start today u have a chance of being the first after 5-6 years of hardcore playing lol...Thats ridiculous and a reason why not many are interested in even trying the game...

    Now about the other thing youve mentioned...how im being selfish...well..i might be selfish when it comes to pvp but i aim for equality ...im not one of those ppl who dont wanna loose the stuff that makes them godlike ...like gems, crafts, items and so on...i prefer that when it comes to pvp , each side should have the same shot...unlike u apparently...

    When it comes to PvE at least , id like to have a bit of advantage when it comes to gems and stuff ...wont mess with the pvp and thats why id like to have a fair conversion rate.The money that we payed should be reflected in pve and not pvp...Hopefully u now get it bro.Cheers.

    PS: What will really get u screwed in pvp after this update will be your skills and nothing else...like its supposed to be :) So if u dont bellieve in yourself then....

    Overall its kinda like this...u get this and that in a game but when this or that gets removed u shouldnt cry about it but
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018
  13. Dharles

    Dharles Forum-Apprentice

    about old sapphire,its game changer,,a lot..
    If u buy them a lot and equip them,
    the rest of normal player will be loser.
    was equipped in 1H weapon will make the game so buggy with the incredible speed,,do you want a buggy game?
    not to mention adding runes that we have now,
    same with run speed,,
    thats why the boots stat (not gem) change to 7,xx from 9,xx on the new item now,,
    its our responsibility to play a nice,decent,bug free game. sometimes we must do sacrifice for the game.

    about same price for buying old and new gem,,no we shouldnt,,this is the advantage of play the game,,
    u play u got gem refiner,then refine the cheap old gem,, then u get win,,something fair for me.


    about equally in pvp,,we cant or should not make same stat in pvp between old and new player,, if we should, must be very
    small changes than what we have now. the differences taken from item equipped or from wisdom or same wisdom point for
    all but diffrent equipment stat and bonus,, or old player could get something usefull new skill base on the item equipped (diffrent on pve),,but should not the same,,
    why i have this set or this kind of hp,armor and damage or speed or burn effect if newby directly can make it too,,they must achieve it and equip them, its juz the differences shouldnt be so far,not 1 shoot fest like we have now
    ,,and the daily quest for pvp juz being so grindy hard to achieve for juz 1 day,,,the quest should decrease like half of them,,so we shouldnt decrease
    our hp assume it will take a while for complete the daily quest.I mean longer run but juz need take 1 or 2 times only in 1 day,,(i heard in future update will be something like this),i my self only for gilded clover,,,
    maybe in the future if we have something jumping monster that we can summon or make the invisible ability or acrobatic stuff,or many other effect from pvp, i would like to play pvp alot
    i hope after the pvp balance finally get release, dev should do more tweak base on all player respond,,but sure it souldnt be equal,,maybe 10 times changes after release wouldnt not matter.

    about jester,i have no idea,,if they want gamble even tho only with gold,,its up to them or maybe we shouldnt let anyone gamble,,idk im juz no comment for that.
     
  14. WeCabtForgive

    WeCabtForgive Forum-Greenhorn

    Hello
    What do you guys think about the release?
    New players get runes, stones etc all thrown behind?
    All is well and good, should not disturb me, even if you have invested thousands of euros.
    But the PVP change?
    Are you all right?
    Why did I farm a 1Hand set for months?
    Why do I have enough glyphs for 3 sets on level 60? Why did I buy runes and stones to the max?
    What is your intention, if not all the old players get rid of.
    What should the new players buy if you get everything pushed into the butt.
    Why should you go to farms for hours?
    To be able to run infernal 4 as fast as solo as Infernal 3?
    For the time savings you hardly have to buy stones or put a lot of time in perfect items?
    Recognize here only a nice principle, for new players, which therefore have in a few weeks everything that has been worked out here since 2012 and with a lot of Money.

    And what happens after a few weeks? Even the new players will stop, who is so stupid to sit down forever and to grind when you profit at the end 0? Who's going to spend money if you can just grow up so easily.
    And now the whole laughing number will arrive here, which hardly play, invest no money and thus lie only dead on the ground in PvP.
    Well, get your * * * * * up, if you want to play up, instead of just whining.
    You can already farm everything if you keep it constant.
    With what justification do you ask that you should receive the same as permanent farmer/payer?
    Ridiculous, I also do not work 2hours a day and want to earn the same as someone who works 12 hours a day.
    Stupid dumb stupid, more I do not think about the release, guess just like many others, I am gone, if the release so Comes.

    Those who complain here will not notice anyway from their own stats in PvP, the few unclean stones do not matter anyway.
    Who actually talks about balancing problems? All classes except for the 1Hand dwarf vtl, are super balanced in PvP.
    And there are hardly any hits, unless you get caught by someone with an armor break, or nen 2Händer hits you well.
    All the rags here, the Nix farms, do not spend money and then complain when they reach nothing.
    Get your * * * * * up and don't mess up the long-time players for the fun just because you're lazy stupid idiots.
    You could regulate everything differently, see level 40 times, or even 45 and 50.
    Nonsense, nonsense.
    You feel so screwed up here always and Kleefeld again.
    Am away, wish all the loosers here a lot of fun in Fair PvP, if you were at the top of it, you wouldn't be so stupid rumjammern the whole time.

    It is a pity that some people do not get along with it when others have worked out or have done something that they simply are not able to do.

    Looked.
    900 + million glyphs.
    Stones and runes all Max, mostly not just for 1 build.
    Cube set (as well as almost every set) complete with gold-only stats, 4x gold you don't have to mention.
    3.5 million Mater frags if someone with the same farm effort has played here, the one knows that with a lot of time it is possible to achieve all this in 6 years without Payen.
    I don't even want to deny a lot of investment, but Pay2win is wrong.
    Rather Farm2win
    And then our hobby farmers complain about PvP.
    If you get almost 4 sets on LVL 60 without deluxe, we can talk.
    What do you guys think? What are you going to get, because you're too lazy.
    If the 0815 players complain about being overrun by accounts like mine, I wonder if you still have all the cups in the closet.
    Pathetic.
    That you are in PvP 1hit of a wutschlag is no different when I think about what I put in time/do in comparison to you.
    Laughable that Bigpoint will let you through with it.

    sorry just did everything in Google transtlater, no time to write it by myself again. i hope u can understand the message
     
  15. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Ambassador

    yes, there are triggered snowflakes who are reacting histerically because they are losing their priviledges and apparently their self worth
    I have no empathy for them

    But there are also tons of reasons why this pvp change is bad and it should not be implemented
    Also bringing up that game isn't really a great idea, since it's a battle royale game, not an Hack and Slash RPG, the genre is different, and as such the pvp is different there and copypasting that model in DSO won't work
    Also since this is an RPG, skill and ability aren't enough, equipment should be able to influence your results in pvp
    The feeling of improvement and growth is necessary in an RPG, why would you farm then anyway? If you remove that feeling, that experience, it becomes kinda pointless to even play RPGs

    Some people like that to feel powerful in pvp also and want to see reap the fruits of their work in pvp

    Also this release is going to wipe out all the work and the time and possibly even real world money they have spent in this game to build their characters, that is not good and when BP did that, for example with the upping of level cap it generated a good amount of complaining, which is quite understandable
    Lastly, it's not going to balance pvp or to fix it, it simply wipes away the problems

    A moba like pvp unless heavily adapted to an rpg game won't work
     
  16. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    Your logic is not bad, but is for other games, this is a hard grind game and if after 5 years of grinding events of many days hours spend in game and also money to equip your character to play PVP, BP will nerf you to the ground(and this is not the first time), i guess is time for you to make a decision.
    The core of this game is adding value on a character buying, crafting, farming and no trade nothing else to help you to do this easier so if you compare this with other game then we must compare the whole game nut just some aspects- first of all they have another way of monetization teh game and this is fisrst aspect, second is another genre has nothing to do with a hack a slash game ARPG, so dont compare this with MOBA or shooters.

    They cant destroy all game all core or transform that in another thing is just not worth , if they want something new they can try to develop that Games of thrones game that is in development from 2012 i think and bring a successful business model with that and after that they can implement here that model.

    If they manage to make this game not be pay to win like he is now, then and only then they should get ride of the effects and that PVP nerf will be necessary- until that...NO.
    As i can see, in fact they want to replace gems/runes power with elixirs potions tonics and other pay to win items power.
    I understand that they try to bring new players with a free PVP, but with what cost? they will loose another wave of players that pay this game, and what they get many kids that wont pay a dime.They cant atract new players that can play and you know why? because is so havy pay to win and all run away when they see the shop.This aggressive marketing kill the game not content.
    When they will have in shop only things that cant boost your character then i will agree to erase all my gems or runes power, but as long as this game will remain pay to win then i will like to have what i pay for.


    If we make a side by side comparative evaluation with competition i think DSO will loose so bad so is not a wise think to do that , just maybe in creative corner for in game suggestions not for business model or game related big changes.

    No one is crying i dont see why kids use this words, is just an opinion against a massive nerf of players investments time and/money and for so big changes you need to be sure that this game will take the right path because until now we had only nerfs nothing on the right direction and that is why we have empty servers.

    If they split PVP from PVE then will be much cheaper to play poe and lol instead of DSO- if they nerf us every 6 months there it will be cheaper for us to start fresh in other games- they need to understand that.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018
  17. IKILLGIANTS

    IKILLGIANTS Active Author

    i think new players deserve a chance,a fair one,there are too many God Players,this update will make new players to stay and welcome the future ones,the game needs some fresh blood...
     
  18. You haven't read my previous comments I guess. I do agree PvP should be skill based but not entirely. Current pvp is a mess, let me just put that out. However, as I said multiple times, the proposed PvP changes are not a solution... if they had mentioned this "idea" a long time ago, a lot of people wouldn't have invested so much resources into PvP focused builds, just to be thrown straight into the furnace.

    I can't see why someone should be able to defeat the veterans who just joined Drakensang 1 minute ago... SOME investment advantage should be present, like it used to be in level 40's. However, a skilled player should be able to defeat a veteran. That's my opinion... and my proposed solution is nerf current builds so that each build is focused on something.

    2h: high damage + crit dmg and low defense
    1h + shield: overall defence and survivability with moderate damage and low crit rate/dmg
    1h + offhand: high attack speed and critical rate, good damage and low defence

    Something like that, not premium set with 80% block rate/strength, 80% critical rate 80% armor/resistance(even with armor break), 400% critical damage, 100k health points and 10k damage.. how the hell does one compete with that? I'll tell you how, you can compete with that only when you have the same exact build :) How do you get that build? Ages of grinding and investing.

    Once all options(1h + offhand defense/offensive or 2h) are viable, then you can say PvP is balanced.


    Go watch new PvP videos, movement and attack speed looks like it's slowmotion.. tell me dwarves don't have a massive advantage in this case?
     
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  19. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    I mean what do you mean that new players deserve a chance when the old players carry noobs to get their t6 items................... if its not for the oldies the newbies will be still on painfull farming for ages like we did before
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2018
  20. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Ambassador

    yes, it doesn't seem fun or satisfying at all

    But,alas, bp is lazy and goes for the lazy option, which is copy pasting
     
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