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Discussion in 'Test Server' started by Phyrix, Jul 18, 2019.

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  1. Phyrix

    Phyrix Old Hand

    Well guys R221 is almost upon us.
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    and of course unique jewels
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  2. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Board Analyst

    So, is our equipment getting a third row of slots to put these new runes in? I've got no room for anything else in the slots I have.
     
  3. Akageshi

    Akageshi Old Hand

    So is this the stage 1 of the equipment update, or? I hope not, because if equipment update means a few new gems that I will maybe obtain in another 4 years of farm, no thanks :]

    And Jewel of Rage? I have 2 of those on a live server. They give +5% crit.dmg and +1% att.speed. Are they gonna be replaced, exchanged, or something else?
     
  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    In general it is another nerf to any other build than the mainstream bandwagoners build especially 1H builds.
    Our Event jewels taken by force like the Royal Blues.
    Oh wait for the event ... it won't be so pleasant. Fatal = Infernal III
    _Baragain_ deleted his account ... I don't care for this mess of a game anymore
     
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  5. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Overlooker

    so they buff bosses and then they make even more overpowered cr*p to make us even more powerful and repeat the cicle
    Also it seems that they want us to make those jewels by using royal gems? Are they crazy?This is going to make the game even more p2w


    Are they planning to buff up the bosses even more?And they will take away those ancient runes before the update?
     
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  6. Phyrix

    Phyrix Old Hand

    you dont need to replace your royal blues especially in your weapon, no sir, actually quite the opposite you can now gain 680 damage on your 1h with 10 gems, and keep your weapon damage
     
  7. couda22

    couda22 Padavan

    He was talking about Sapphires (discontinued attack speed gems).
    R220 nerfs Solstice Star and Crystal Solstice Star. Any player using this rune(s) will lose HP.
     
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  8. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Overlooker

    what about other old runes such as the old rune that the invincible event used to give? or onyx skull?
     
  9. Phyrix

    Phyrix Old Hand

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  10. couda22

    couda22 Padavan

    Please be aware that the HP is class dependent, so the HP value is lower for other classes (the pictures above are for DK).
     
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  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    If I didn't know you I would say you are noob ... but I won't.
    Now ... THIS is how Royal Blue looks like ... all others are fake.
    Also I would appreciate if you take your inaccurate calculations for yourself ... since I am playing actually 1H since ever.
    BTW 680 damage is a JOKE
    I don't need random internet videos ... I create my own contents and I check the facts before I say something.
    Not just these new "jewels" are not good as the original ones ... they are also used in other equipment. On top of it ... you haven't paid attention ---> you can only EQUIP ONE fake jewel. They are forcing us to discard the other jewels or keep them in our inventory so they can take more space. Or grind them down into dust.
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    This is the Jewel of Rage
    https://drakensangonline.fandom.com/wiki/Jewel_of_Rage
    https://drakensangonline.fandom.com/wiki/Jewel_of_Timeless_Rage
    and this is the new fake one
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    this is the Sostice Star
    https://drakensangonline.fandom.com/wiki/Solstice_Star
    https://drakensangonline.fandom.com/wiki/Crystal_Solstice_Star
    and this one is the fake one
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    You kidding me 345 HP instead of the old 5% :D ... and you can use only one :D :D

    The only improvement is the Skull ...
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    BUT ... why would non-DK class actually use them? No point in using them ... UNLESS ... they make you use them because they will provide no other gems/runes for those slots ... which they are doing with this release ... and probably the other jewels are next on the list with the next releases.
     
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  12. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Duke

    I see nothing about that on his youtube channel, only anonymous person said this on Wiki... could it be truth?

    Wait... but only one jewel of each type got converted to the new version or that is an old screenshot?

    Also... if they 1. removed the "socketable amount" 2. improved the HP bonus on the new "star", would it be that bad?
     
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  13. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Junior Expert

    hmmm new gems.. wasn't it just few months back they told us. It was a bad idea to have more then one kind of gems. That is why they got rid of the Quazar(what ever they were) gems. Of course after we used our bought/farmed ander for gem refiners. When will you guys learn. The only reason they would change the old event gems is because they are an advantage. The only time they ever make a change like this is because it is an advantage to the player. SMH
     
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  14. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Those were upgraded by me.
    They are of common rarity at the start.
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    BTW these Jewels (including the regular ones) are the most P2W feature that this game has ever had.
    They told me on Wiki ... I did check ... it is true.
    He no longer bothers with DSO ...
     
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  15. Phyrix

    Phyrix Old Hand

    Well firstly I am quite a noob in comparison to you am I not?
    So apologies for that I did not think you referred to the "speed heist" or whatever you want to call it.
    Now regarding that 680 damage it is in gems to a max of 10 iow 68*10.
    However if those jewels were to be applied to for example amulet and helmet you can enhance their effects with runes.
    Secondly the the 680 in total + % on this item on those 2x types of items + % damage will equate to around 8k more damage.
    That excludes cube amulet of course which you can wear easily with the new types of gems.
    Now I am not too sure which weapon you use on your 1h ranger but this with gwenfara ghost bow would equate to around 50k damage on a 1h build of your choosing.

    And they did state they will introduce new unique runes and gems.

    let me show you an example and maybe you can get me some more info?

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    Lets see what they plan as this may be their way of diversifying builds.

    In the meantime while they should enable prestine crafting cloaks very soon this little treasure is going into either cloak of heroes or some rather odd cloak of my choosing, whenever it arrives.
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    Added, since you have a 1h build you can always add more damage by using 3x min damage and 1x max damage which is more or less 8% more damage in total
     
  16. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Duke

    Wait, did they just convert your jewels of timeless rage to regular new "jewels of rage"? Just like they did with eg. speed runes during the Grand Sapphire Theft?

    So you checked and his characters on Agathon do not exist...?

    1. How much will it cost for a P2W to create those jewels and upgrade them?
    2. How long will it take for a F2P to obtain and upgrade them?
    3. What about characters and builds heavily dependent on cooldown reduction? How are they going to use damage runes in the amulet?
    He's using Power of the Alliance.
    Gwenfara's Bow is a shortbow, and thus has no conc. cost reduction. That's why he's not using it - there are virtually no good longbows for a ranger, except for the cube bow, which is useless for him anyways... and is kinda P2W for regular players.

    "their way" is the keyword here. "their way" = kinda warped way = * PW way = player pwning way

    * - I'm trying to make a pun here, as they said once that PWs are "warped versions of normal maps" - or something in these lines, the word "warped" was there anyways. Here I expanded that abbreviation in a slightly different than normal way...

    Should? But will they? Man, they're completly unpredictable. If I compared them here to who I think is as unpredictable as them, I would get banned.

    Of course. Remake your build, and remake your build, and remake your build, work and work and work again... just for them to make your build obsolete just like that... not because they added better (completly different and interesting) items, like it is in other games. Nope. Rething, remake and rework your build because they REMOVED the items you are currently using. While I haven't been hit so much by any of this updates, I fully understand why are they making Trak so angry.
     
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  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Rubies in arrows are useless ... I am using them in arrows only because I have 10+rubies and I have nothing else to use in arrows (I don't need onyx I have a quiver).
    That is 5 rubies in weapon ... arrows don't have IDotI so rubies are useless there.
    One does not simply make diversity with gems. All kind of unique items are needed ... not just useless unique items like we have now but unique items that would actually be usable.
    Take your 50K damage Gwenfara build and try Khalys on infernal IV ... solo.
    Let me know of the outcome ... if you can actually fire more than one/two EA.
    Again you are taking a bad example.
    First ... No class can afford to lose cooldown runes for runes of vigor especially 1H since 1H has no cooldown reduction wisdom talent.
    Second ... even if you use runes of vigor in amulet it would be a monkey business. 5x40%=200%
    Those new jewels would be useful only in one other item - gloves. Where 4x73% IDotI enchantments would be used.
    (102+(68x5))=442 ... with 292% increased damage on item you would get ~1733 damage on that item AND you still keep your runes of relentlessness.
     
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  18. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Overlooker

    those new jewels have to be used in place of gems or can they be used in an entirely new slot?
     
  19. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Active Author

    Maybe new jewels can be useful for endgame characters that have royal gems in inventory even if the gain is minimal.
    I think the best way to use them is changing 5 amethyst and 5 diamonds with 10 jewels ruby/amethyst/diamond
    or 10 diamonds with 10 with 10 jewels ruby/amethyst/diamond
    using normal gems in items with bonus % on items.

    But all others (with recent drop of resources/gems)?

    All that work for few players or they hope that new players spent thousands euros in andermants?
    We can't see but they introduce also Diamonds with resistance at only 1 element....who need them?

    And new DTU have poor rewards and half draken.
    Someone know what is the content of the new chest (in map1)?
     
  20. Phyrix

    Phyrix Old Hand

    The coalescence can be used in up to 10x normal gem slots and the new unique gems can be used by up to 1x gem slot
     

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