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Suggestion Ranger Q7

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You want it Q7 set to have it back 3sec..?

Poll closed Feb 27, 2019.
  1. Yes!

    13 vote(s)
    31.7%
  2. No!

    22 vote(s)
    53.7%
  3. I don't care.

    3 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. No ranger are to OP already.

    3 vote(s)
    7.3%
  1. Shiro

    Shiro Padavan

    ( _ゝ )


    He was referring to the guy who uses Q4 set
     
  2. bloodyneo

    bloodyneo Forum Master

    don't listen to those haters...i voted yes because they should give us back what they stole from us rangers..double nerf.. EA dont explode on walls and 1 sec less in one release.. canceled my deluxe since day one of the nerf..its simple bring back EA and 1 sec and i will buy deluxe.....
     
  3. nikatar

    nikatar Junior Expert

    We are haters cause we vote no??? You are hilarious....we are trying to be fair compair to other characters too and we are not looking only ourselves like others....! Bigpoint dont stole nothing, things just change. And be sure that they will change it again so u buy delux3...
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2019
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  4. ROOK

    ROOK Someday Author

    Still waiting a "polite counter argument" on why we should judge a set refferring only to a pairs of skills and not to all the skills available
     
  5. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    I know what are you saying but if you look at the forum and think about it, the rangers with common sense lose things and allows to be nerfed while other classes do not admit the minimum change in their abilities even if it is something of common sense, complaining without reason they manage to maintain things that they should not have while another class with more decency understands the changes and suffers the consequences of mismanagement of the game.

    Thanks to mana regeneration, a mage can spam more frozen spheres without using any set for it than EA can a ranger use in 2 sec with q7.
     
  6. nikatar

    nikatar Junior Expert

    Maybe you are right but i think that for now, at least for pve, rangers are just fine ;)
     
  7. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    In PvP clearly not. In this new PvP it is very easy to see the imbalances, the devs should only do duel between them, all the classes against all and will realize the advantages of some classes over others that come from an imbalance in the base of the game and skills.
    Not mentioning they are rewarding mediocrity instead of the skill of the player. It is easier to win running and regenerating HP (not all classes can do it) than truly fighting. There is no equality of conditions between different classes in a duel.
     
  8. nikatar

    nikatar Junior Expert

    I agree man but still this pvp is more fair than before....for example 1 or 2 hits ko are almost impossible to find now between 55lvl characters!
     
  9. RoWaR

    RoWaR Forum-Apprentice

    I will do not make a long tail, in short terms those q4 users and those who don't like q7 show US not to me only, how strong q4 is it on farming map.
    I will do this like mr @trakilaki and begin.., a challenge Q1 for who use q4, let us to know how strong is it this set, someone from here say we ranger have 14 sweet nice skills, and we use only a few becose q7 set, i personally use i think almost 10skills, ofc some of them rare and another more.

    Challenge is it;

    Map: Q1
    Mod: Inf III
    Weapon: only q4.
    Skills: all skills.
    Clean all monster.
    Essence: white or green max no better essence.
    Improvements: tonic, cure, buffs and potion you can use it all.



    I make it a round with Q7 and here is it;



    Prove it, a thousand words a penny do not do $_$. Good luck.
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2019
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  10. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I must admit you are too fast ... I can't clear maps as fast as you can even with red essences :)
    Therefore ... thank you for proving my point :cool:
    There you go ... you proved to OP and the others ... there is no reason to change Q7 buff back to 3 seconds :)
     
  11. G4xior

    G4xior Forum-Greenhorn

    checkmate
     
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  12. SurpriseMtf

    SurpriseMtf Forum-Apprentice

    The reason to increase q7 buff to 3 seconds is cause he employed 4 min for clean 2 full maps, and 2 min just for kill the boss. While other classes clean maps as quickly as the rangers, and kill the bosses in 30 seconds. We all know that the extra second in addition would be superfluous in the maps, but would come in handy from the bosses. Without taking anything away from the other classes, i do not see anything wrong with bringing the buff back to 3 seconds. I do not understand all this obstructionism that we do between classes, when the pvp now is completely divided by the pve....
     
  13. KulawyMao

    KulawyMao Junior Expert

    u can do it much faster
    if u don't use q7 u need more mana like mage
    if u will have 330~ mana u will can strike 5 ea in a row = u will faster kill boss

    anyway
    q4 on ranger isn't so bad, but ppl don't use it bc ranger's q7 is op
    if u use net u can strike 6ea without any cost* = u need 330 mana to do it without q7 and u have 40% chance to multiple

    *if u have good speed atk
     
  14. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    The reason for vote " NO" is simple - q7 is the top dmg set at the moment and we no need more ops for it .
    checkmate!
    We can make the same maps without q7 , without 2h build too ;) Not too fast really , but this is game , not racing.
    Therefore all spam in this topic are nonsensical , tell me why you need OP for the OPest set ever ?
     
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2019
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  15. MrBIG

    MrBIG Forum-Greenhorn

    Change buff to 1 sec all mages will be happy :)
     
  16. SurpriseMtf

    SurpriseMtf Forum-Apprentice

    The reason you wrote is completely no sense in my opinion, cause every single person who plays this game would like more damage and more possible benefits, without remove anything to the other classes of course ,and in the most correct way possible (we dont talk of 1Milion dmg more per second).
    Is just selfishness who speaks here.

    Cause 1 second dont change nothing if u dont have a nice and complete pg in all fronts. A second more in map is completely irrelevant, but it can help the rangers keep up with the other classes, against the bosses.
    Rangers need some fix for boss battle, cause are fast in map but not from bosses like other classes. When you hit for example grimmag whit net u dont use all 2 seconds for hit whit EA, cause you move and dodge, so 1 second more will be really useful.

    That the ranger needs some new sets, and a some skill fix there is no doubt, but in this post we talk about q7 set, not about what can do a ranger whitout q7 set lol.

    If isnt a race why u dont play whit item tier 0 ? This game is a RACE, whit big R. Leaderborad, pvp, rank, it's all based on competition.
    If in this game the goal was just to do the same maps billions of times, do you know from how much time would have already closed ???
     
  17. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    I don't know with whom and why you are competing , I just play ~2 hours every day after work. For me this game is endless grind .:)
     
  18. SurpriseMtf

    SurpriseMtf Forum-Apprentice

    If is as you say, why u dont play whit all items tier 0 ? ;););) For you to clean the map in 10 seconds or 10 minutes nothing changes, is not a race is just a game :D:D
     
  19. Shiro

    Shiro Padavan

    While I agree about voting no on this poll, I must say that it's clear as sun that the problem exposed by @DamarèRo is:
    wich translates in
    Therefore, the last video posted by @RoWaR not only doesn't prove your point about the thread, but also about the challenge you proposed, since he's not killing mobs by using only the skills you mentioned (wich shouldn't be valid based on the "rules" - being it a bait or not).

    It all depends on how you take things for.
    He might be playing with the most efficient/effortless items possible just to have a nice smooth farming experience during those two hours he plays, you never know.
    You won't make it to history books by being n°1 at Qs' leaderboard :D and players don't even care about who's on the first ranks (unless he's exploiting), so I'd say you can take things slow.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2019
  20. SurpriseMtf

    SurpriseMtf Forum-Apprentice

    So why I cant get back the 3 seconds back (for all of you), if what I want is just smoother gameplay as you just say???
    Especially if I do not take anything away from anyone, indeed I could be even more useful for the bosses, but being selfish is much easier from what i see.
    Never talked about being, or wanting to be, first in the leaderboards, this is an exaggeration said by you, not by me, i remember you we talk about q7 buff..... why all go off-topic when they no longer have arguments?

    If you dont care who is first in the leaderboards, this does not mean that others can not care, "you never know this" :rolleyes:.
    And if u want be slower for a "nice and smooth farm":D:D u are free, but u cant but you cant force others to do what you prefere.

    So i still wait an answer, if I do not take anything away from others, but I could also help them way better, if this change isnt a game breaking feature, and does not unbalance absolutely and in no way the power of the other classes, and if i simply want a "smoother gameplay experience", why all of you say no to a proposal that benefits everyone????

    I remember to all that the nerf from 3 sec ---> 2 sec was made cause lot of ppl cry for pvp, and not for the pve. I also agreed to this, cause wasnt fun being killed from a storm of rockets from nowere, even if my pg is a ranger.
    Now that the change it would not affect in any ways the other classes, is really weird the position that all of you take towards this proposal.

    I can also say that the gameplay with q7 has already tired me for a while. I would prefer to see some 1h build with quiver . But if the programmers do not even mind to make such changes, at this point i prefer to improve the only functional game experience I have.

    Since this game is a full-fledged race, with oneself and with others, if a ranger is a bit faster to kill bosses, envy is triggered. If not why say no to this proposal? But if a class kills a boss in 30 seconds, or uses the 9-second buff q7 and switch weapon to benefit the best, it's all lawful.

    PS: will be fun know which class spits sentences on the other classes, just to better understand the fanbase of this game.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2019

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