Good St. Lucia replacement

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  1. Pagan_Spirit

    Pagan_Spirit Someday Author

    anybody have suggestions?
    -thnx
     
  2. justdie

    justdie Advanced

    titan smashers
    unless they changed the rewards
    or the ice ship frost guard or what ever for admirals pretty legit .
     
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  3. rubenrs

    rubenrs Junior Expert

    It depends. If he has a decent castle, or even just access to commonwealth guardian then Drakir Hrell would be much better. they hit harder but the pearl output is better while the spawn mechanic is good and consistent. I think Titan Smashers are only worth it for players below lvl 21. Notice also that Drakir Hrell can easily cover key costs if you want to unlock chests while killing them. Doing chests and Hrell together is really good profit both in terms of chest rewards and pearls since the indirect ammo cost from chests is almost equal to that of buying the ammo directly if you use all Reinforced Explosive ammunition, Shrapnel ammunition and Upgraded Explosive ammunition to shoot hrell. It gets a bit boring, but so did Santa Lucia - Atleast Hrell is many times more profitable. At Hrell you can expect to use 1800-3000 flares or similar for each kill and they give 2100 pearls on average. Notice, that it's offcause a complete waste of time to use hollows on hrell because of the very high pearl output. I definitely recommend Hrell with chests since it's great profit and free bi ammo, voodoo ammo, admiral cannons, queens legacy, voodoo priest lvl 4, pet trainers, membership and amulets. The chests are also fun to collect in my opinion - so much so that I think I would do it much less if I didn't take chests.
     
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  4. Pagan_Spirit

    Pagan_Spirit Someday Author

    while those answers were really helpful - lemme edit that question;

    Any good replacement options for hollow shooters and ppl. with nub castles?
    > and thanx again.

    **am lvl 21, but the cost benefit of getting good officers with me boarding is around 1/10, so totally not worth it - am looking for a decent gold income to bid on market stuff.. anything really easy to do/shoot.
     
  5. *KRUCHY*

    *KRUCHY* Forum Duke

    Hey @Pagan_Spirit ,

    right so ... for santa lucias replacement i would recommend :

    Black Hearted Killer -> map 5 -> 175 k gold + medalion for raid map
    Brutal Envoy -> map 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 -> 1,6 mln gold
    Rose maria -> map 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 -> 130 k gold
    Crimson Claw -> map 6, 7, 8, 9,10 -> 200 k gold
    Hearty Cog -> map 8, 9, 10 -> 250 k gold
    Savage Clipper map 7, 8, 9, 10 - 200 k gold

    If you think about something similar to Admiral lucia ( to make some pearls with hollows ) then Drakir Hrell would be a good choice.

    Drakir Hrell -> map 13, 14, 15 -> 500 000 HP -> 2'100 pearls
     
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  6. Pagan_Spirit

    Pagan_Spirit Someday Author

    <3 all I ever wanted.

    issue solved (close)
     
  7. rubenrs

    rubenrs Junior Expert

    Hollows are inefficient! It takes 2,380 crystals for 21 skill points, 20k pearls for ammo and lvl 21 to start hrells. You can get the crystals from quests and the pearls from Titan Crasher. After this point you should prioritize 1 hour hrell and 2 hours gold droppers using elite ammo over three hours gold droppers using hollows - i.e. hollows are for low hp npcs and finishing off npcs. Nothing else. No matter your boat size.

    If you have no castles, 21 skill points and guardian then you make 30k pearls / hr on hrell while getting the chest loot. If you unlock castles for the profit then you will quickly begin earning much more - I can easily imagine the strong boats profiting 100k/hr on hrell. I get 70k profit / hr while being semi efficient on hrell with voodoo lvl 1 cannons or better plus decent castles and a decent amount of skillpoints. The dynamics of hrell is such that there is profit for everybody participating but scarcity of hrell so that there is a cap for the strong boats - they are essentially a way for BP to give new players good castles much faster than it was possible in earlier versions while capping the advantage edge for strong players - much like how they gave 100 voodoos for getting to lvl 21 which is much better rewards for noobs than for big boats. In my clan there was a moment of outrage from old players because it was made this easy for noobs to earn pearls through Hrell.

    In sum you are essentially asking us for different ways to waste your time. Forget about auctions. They are not synced to the massively upgraded profit rates. Auctions are for spare gold from crown quests, nothing more. You should be doing Hrell. Some people argue that Lion map in lvl 26 is still slightly better for strong boats than Hrell. Idk about that. For noobs Hrell is definitely best.
     
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  8. minigravey

    minigravey Active Author

    on pretty much alot of npc, you have to hit amazingly hard, or close to full cannon skill castles. especially with all the new trashy npcs. removing the lucia's was the last and only npc for small ships. When players don't even set there auto'bots to shoot admirals you know its bad. ie: bloody batler, frosty,
    hrell are garbage if your smaller without max or close to maxed,
    hrell are best for bots, as we all witness
     
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  9. Pagan_Spirit

    Pagan_Spirit Someday Author

    that was really helpful :) - but:
    > which chest loot? is this something I should be doing simultaneously? (ie. buy keys with pearls and go chest hunting)
    > for castles: I'm guessing youre referring to the gunpowder flask in particular, anything else perchance?
    > skillpoints... where would u place them? -- Iput mine dominantly into Legba (speed) and Ogoun (npc damage)

    **I have 256 cannons, half of them lvl3 60s... would that lower my chances of profit considerably?
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018 at 6:56 PM
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  10. rubenrs

    rubenrs Junior Expert

    > You can make good profit using the cannons you achieved from leveling to 21.
    > Here is how I would prioritize skillpoints and castles. 1 being highest priority and priority 1 skills being the most important. If you have all priority 1 skills then go for priority one castle: http://prntscr.com/j62yzb
    > Yes using ammo from chest is an alternative to buying ammo. So you spend pearls on keys and shoot all hrell and collect all chests. It is slightly less profit in terms of pearls but not by much. If you used all chest ammo it would yield a resounding surplus both in terms of additional loot offcause but also in terms of pearls - but I would not recommend using burning ice or Shell Shock on hrell.
     
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  11. Pagan_Spirit

    Pagan_Spirit Someday Author

    wow.
    this is the kind of info I had been hoping for in the 10 or so years of my presence in this forum.
     
  12. *KRUCHY*

    *KRUCHY* Forum Duke

  13. Pagan_Spirit

    Pagan_Spirit Someday Author

    Doing pretty fine - I've found my calling with those Hrells. irl currently writing my master's thesis, so this slow and little thought process is just what i need!
    I'm on the England 1 server - (39)? I'm still lost how ppl from other servers like 605 and whatnot manage to play on this one (I remember once getting an answer from support, when I was telling off some guy with an offensive name, that they are not responsible cuz the guy was from a different server) ... as long as I can ship around and advance, albeit slowly, I'm content!
     
  14. *KRUCHY*

    *KRUCHY* Forum Duke

    Hey @Pagan_Spirit ,

    i did ask because your name ring a bell in my head, and i have no idea where that bell is haha :D
     
  15. Pagan_Spirit

    Pagan_Spirit Someday Author

    I stole the name from a prominent Slovakian black metal band, maybe its that :p
     
  16. Bawdyn

    Bawdyn Regular

    I knew they were a band, but had no idea they were Slovakian or Black Metal, would have guessed Prog. :D
     
  17. *KRUCHY*

    *KRUCHY* Forum Duke

    Hey @Pagan_Spirit ,

    ah i see :) you are in GB* thats good , if you have any ingame questions shout me on global i will give you a hand. You can also try to use GB* guild Team Speak with i also use very often.
     
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  18. piranhahunter

    piranhahunter Someday Author

    are your rates in getting offcers really 1/10?
    buddy i get 1 officer like evry 3npc i board
    i have been level 21 like for 4 days and i already have both officers stcked for 14days,u should try doing the crown quests for the 5k crown,with the crowns u could buy a aditionl 20gun slots more and like the other guys say ammo from chest are good for the hrell if u have decent ship,i use my chest ammo more for the crown quest sinds i am almost maxed on most of my castles
    hope this helps a bit
     

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